Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Etienne J. Caire

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The result was no consensus. j⚛e decker ^talk 15:08, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Etienne J. Caire[edit]

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Claims to fame: ran for governor of Louisiana once, garnering 4% of the vote. Took over a general store opened by his father that later became a historic landmark. His son became a judge. That's about it, and as such, I fail to see how this comes close to WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Prod was disputed. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:00, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is a well-sourced article about an interesting figure in Louisiana political history: running against Huey Long in 1928, Caire was the last Republican to run for governor in Louisiana until 1952. I don't think our historical coverage of Louisiana politics, and its long term transformation from yellow dog Democrat to Republican bastion, is improved by deleting this content. And, as I noted when I removed the prod notice, if we don't want a separate article, the better solution would be to merge and redirect this content to Louisiana gubernatorial election, 1928, not to delete it. --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:18, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If by "well-sourced," you mean a lot of references, yes. It's not well-sourced in terms of WP:RS references with non-trivial coverage of the subject. Mention of Caire is already included in Louisiana gubernatorial election, 1928. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 17:40, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The 4 percent of the vote is the starting point in 1928 for what would later become a majority Republican state, at least for the time being. The article is important to the history of the Republican Party in Louisiana. The Caire family was a major family of St. John the Baptist Parish. Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:55, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. Rcsprinter₁₂₃ (gossip) @ 19:58, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ^BE _CK ^Y _SA ^{Y L}E _S 23:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom or redirect to Louisiana gubernatorial election, 1928#Results. Reliable sources are severely lacking. ~~His obituary, almost certainly written by his own family, goes on at length about his military service, family and memberships in social organizations, but fails to even mention his political career.~~ Clarityfiend (talk) 09:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Subject died in 1955; there are few Internet sources available on him. The military part says only "a United States Navy aviator in World War II" in reference to his grandson, who is mentioned because he is Caire, II.Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. Wrong obit. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:59, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep on the purely selfish basis that an article this well done leads me to ignore any shortcomings that may or may not actually exist. Pax 01:46, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:ILIKEIT. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete as per Ohnoitsjamie current sources are marginal at best, not clear what Caire's impact has been, other than to run unsuccessfully against Huey Long. Not clear how the article is "well done" considering the borderline references, like findagrave, like L'Observateur (only mentions). Needed are several articles talking about Caire's impact.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 14:46, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note. Two additional sources, a newspaper and an historical dictionary, have been added. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:28, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per User:Arxiloxos. Article is well sourced given the era of his life.--TM 13:06, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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