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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 18:12, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Erik Desiderio[edit]

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Obviously fails notability, but with also COI issue. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 01:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: The article passes WP:GNG, in which it has significant reliable sources like ([1], ([2], few more sources are added now and it has also have notable award and nominations such as two times Hollywood Music in Media Awards nominated and more other reliable festivals.Iitttlefir (talk) 02:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Those aren't reliable at all. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 09:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment – Iitttlefir is the creator of the article up for deletion. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 09:32, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify The evidence points to it being a COI article but also it potentially passing WP:NCOMPOSER, making an outright deletion potentially hasty. However, currently it lacks decent sourcing or any sort of non-resume-like content. I would suggest it be draftified and prohibited from being recreated without the approval of a knowledgeable editor, if sources can be found. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – Can't find anything on this composer whatsoever. Additionally, Iitttlefir's entire edit history consists of creating articles for obscure, non-notable filmmakers using as the image a full-res, staged photoshoot that they describe as "own work" – genuinely leading me to believe that they may be being asked to do these on the subjects' behalfs. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 09:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: coverage for this composer is very scarce, mostly database biographies. The NYFA piece seems good, but WP:MUSICBIO clearly states that the subject must have multiple pieces of significant coverage for notability. InDimensional (talk) 11:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No significant coverage found aside from the NYFA piece. Otherwise, the article's sources are either primary (interviews) or press releases. As mentioned by TheTechnician27, the highly stylized infobox image caught my attention as well. HopalongCasualty (talk) 21:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Undoing my close, per request at talk page. Editor claims to have additional information. I am entertaining this request as the discussion was not relisted.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 02:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Greenish Pickle!:, @Iitttlefir:, @Zxcvbnm:, @Govvy:, @TheTechnician27:, @InDimensional:, @HopalongCasualty: - note that I have zero opinion one way or the other regarding the post-close claims of notability on my talk page. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 02:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If thats the case, then ill recommend to '''Draftify''' the article for having COI issue. After looking at the sources, the 1st source were just interview, and other 2 is an awful sources. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am really confused by the claims of SIGCOV there, one of the sources is an interview and another is a potentially unreliable blog. The last is from a database. To me none of those change anything about the article's notability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:29, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After the weeklong window of the nomination, there's still nothing that even begins to assert notability. Any viable sources (BBC, Hollywood Reporter) only mention him in passing and there's virtually zero article content, just a quick mention of his education and work history. Coupled with the infobox image, it's not a stretch to consider this a promotional piece. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 03:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The sources were mentioned at User talk:78.26 and the editor requesting relisting hasn't participated in this discussion yet. So, they weren't talking about the existing sources. Liz Read! Talk! 03:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments - keep I am surprised you opened this back up, didn't think you wanted too. I am a bit confused by the nomination and the process here. People always go on about significant coverage. But we should always ask, is there basic coverage first. We have some interviews, like the ones in the article, vgmoline.net and this one by ozwe games, a smaller website interview here. and we have awards he won, two sources for [3], [4], for the Los Angeles Live Score Film Festival. Mentioned here as a winner in the article for the Global music award. Surely this all adds up for WP:BASIC. I agree google is limited but that doesn't negate new articles and they need to be given a chance to evolve, this was only added on April 9th, I don't see why you can't wait longer to see what happens with an article. But hey that's my take on it. Regards. Govvy (talk) 11:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commment – Anyone can just hand out non-notable awards. I hereby award you the Wikipedia Award for Excellence in Filmmaking, the Internet Award for Charcuterie, and the 21st Century Video Game Award for Best Character Writing, so if you can sit down with me for an interview, I can have your article up within the week. If all it takes to get a Wikipedia article is to very obviously pay someone to write one for me then, when it's very predictably challenged on notability, show that I've had one or two meaningless interviews and won a couple awards by two-bit, no-name organizations as a form of muddying the waters to retain the article, then we've fallen pretty far from our efforts to clean up this sort of crap that infested the project in the 2000s. This article is effectively spam designed not for the benefit of the encyclopedia but for the sole benefit of its subject. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 19:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment None of these awards are significant, nor does scoring a non-notable film at the "LA Live Score Film Festival" work in establishing SIGCOV. Interviews are primary as they are used to promote the subject, plus Ozwe and Level With Emily are not even viable sources. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 20:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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