Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enda Caldwell (3rd nomination)

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Enda Caldwell[edit]

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While the WP:SURMOUNTABLE issues noted in the first AfD are addressed (incl. the self-penned stuff about "his passion for cars and the motor industry", "[being] instrumental in establishing Navan's Energy Radio [..] from a garden shed" and "his love of drama"), there is still nothing to indicate that the applicable notability criteria are met. In terms of:

WP:CREATIVE (applying to creative professionals) there are no sources to suggest that the subject is "regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successor".
WP:ENT (applying to voice actors) the subject doesn't appear to have had "significant roles in multiple notable films [..] or other productions".
WP:SIGCOV/WP:GNG, the only sources we have (and the only sources found after several years of trying to address COI/AUTOBIO/PROMO/NOTCV concerns) are either not independent (like pulseny.com, radioluxembourg.co.uk, allaccess.com, which are all webpages/press releases from the subject's employers) or not significant (like radiowaves.fm, manchestereveningnews.co.uk, Independent Woman, worcesternews.co.uk, Business Post, in which the subject is BARELY mentioned in passing). The ONLY two pieces which deal with the subject in any depth, and which are not news releases by the subject's employers, are the two low-ball interview pieces. On benztown.com and Meath Chronicle. One a small local paper and the other a speciality industry outlet. Both the type interviews, per WP:INTERVIEW#Notability, which are "broadly unhelpful in establishing notability".

I am, TBH, annoyed at myself for staying on the fence in the second AfD. And remain baffled by the "keep" recommendations in the first AfD (indicating that two of the five refs somehow and unequivocally supported GNG; When they're the same refs we have today; Still clearly not independent and/or passing mentions.) Anyway, while I'm loathe to relitigate, as the last AfD was "no consensus", and as (despite significant effort) I can't justify removing the hatnotes, I'm left with AfD (again).

TLDR version. Subject is a jobbing radio presenter. Like any other. Who also works as a voice artist. Doing station idents and the like. And was once an extra in a film. With insufficient coverage to expand the article beyond a NOTCV "list of jobs" the subject's had. And no independent biographical coverage contributing to notability. The WP:COI and WP:NOTPROMO issues (clear in the article's initial creation) also remain difficult to overlook. Guliolopez (talk) 15:00, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 15:04, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 15:05, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I don't see notability, this is simply a CV in prose-form. I can't find mention of this person in any RS; what's used now is trivial or non-RS. Oaktree b (talk) 15:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:COI and NOTCV issues, just another DJ, not a notable person. Spleodrach (talk) 17:06, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I'm into radio, so I know of this guy. But searching through the usual places you can find old radio news, there's just nothing for him other than brief mentions of him in "remember Atlantic 252?"-type filler articles. Similar in the Irish News Archives where he appears listed in local radio schedules but little else. Flip Format (talk) 11:13, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.