Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emmalyn Estrada

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The result was no consensus. Jayjg ^(talk) 04:04, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Emmalyn Estrada[edit]

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Non-notable singer who does not meet WP:MUSICBIO. Absolutely zero news coverage except for one article listing her name as a nominee in the "Dance/Urban/Rhythmic" category for a Canadian Radio Music Award, which, as the redlink shows, is not "a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award." No other evidence of notability. My PROD was contested with the comment, "lots of airplay of single in Toronto," but MUSICBIO asks whether an artist "[h]as been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network." Glenfarclas (talk) 20:05, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Wikipedia:MUSICBIO #2 and #11 - the single was on the "Canada Singles Top 100" for 17 weeks peaking at #59 in the last week of 2009 and also on Billboard's Canadian Hot 100. –xeno^talk 20:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: that seems to be from some website called αCharts.us. I can't tell who publishes it, but judging from the terrible spelling and grammar it is not a notable chart. According to the site, "αCharts is a privately held website which went online on April 30, 2007. It's primary goal is to give you a quantitative impression of the happenings in the global music industry, by summarizing chart history of performers, songs and albums. And by listing over 35 music charts from the current and previous weeks, which are free for download without having to register." If this single had charted on the Canadian Hot 100 or Canadian Singles Chart, that would be a different matter, but I can't find evidence of either. Glenfarclas (talk) 20:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It has been charting often [1] on the Canadian Hot 100 including 3 weeks in December. Look harder? –xeno^talk 00:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment She seems to have debuted at #88 in Aug. 2009 and then dropped off the charts. Without any further chart activity and no apparent independent coverage, this is pretty weak as fa as WP:MUSICBIO goes. freshacconci talktalk 12:40, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Look again, it re-entered the charts after that, peaking at #60 the week of Oct 31, 2009. –xeno^talk 13:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. — Gongshow ^Talk 17:56, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — Gongshow ^Talk 17:56, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 00:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now without prejudice to recreation in the future if she becomes notable. Currently, she is a one-hit wonder; note that WP:MUSIC states: A musician may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria. While she may meet at least one of the criteria for music, she fails the basic criteria of WP:BIO, which in my view means shes not yet notable. Wine Guy~Talk 08:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some more sources. One-hit wonder is a bit speculative, don't you think? Give her a chance, she's only 17. The fact that I heard her song on the radio several times a day for the past 6-months or so tells me she's at least somewhat notable. –xeno^talk 00:37, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not speculative at all, she is currently known only because she has had one single which has gotten a reasonable amount of radio play. Since she is young, perhaps she will continue on to a very successful career, but that is speculation. Like I said above, I have no problem with this article being re-created when and if she becomes notable. Wine Guy~Talk 00:57, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've adequately demonstrated she fulfills at least two criterion of MUSICBIO and thus already is notable. As far as the "one hit wonder", no; I still think it is crystal balling to apply that label to her at this time. Only if her future singles do not achieve critical or popular success can we say that. Also, calling her a one-hit wonder kind of defeats your argument that she is not notable, no? Wonders are notable. :) –xeno^talk 01:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree; hopefully others will add their input. Wine Guy~Talk 01:30, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Xeno - the subject seems to amply satisfy enough of the notability criteria for musicians to warrant inclusion. Regards, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 20:58, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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