Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Kensley

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Drmies (talk) 03:28, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Kensley[edit]

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The subject of this article to meet the standards of WP:N due to lack of multiple, non-trivial references in reliable, third-party sources. The fact that she was World's Oldest Person in and of itself is irrelevant for determining if she should have a stand-alone article, since there's no Wikipedia policy on the oldest anything being automatically notable by the encyclopedia's standards (also based on long-term consensus, including most recently the redirecting of this World's oldest person). Thus we default to the general notability guidelines and any material of encyclopedic merit can be included on the many longevity-related lists on Wikipedia. Canadian Paul 17:31, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I'm sure I can find some RSes to expand the article. I think it's notable, as she was literally in Guinness World Records IIRC. I think that yes, she's notable, just as much as Jeralean Talley is. DN-boards1 (talk) 17:58, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

— Note to closing admin: DN-boards1 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD.

Delete As per WP:Notability (people): People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. Isambard Kingdom (talk) 19:57, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:11, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:11, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm running out of ways to say "nonnotable". EEng (talk) 14:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This person might belong on one or more of the many longevity related lists, but there are no references on this page. There's an assertion of recognition by Guinness, but even if true (which WP:AGF requires that we assume) a single mention by Guinness hardly constitutes notability as that term is defined in our policies. The entirety of this stub simply says that this person lived to be this very advanced age, and thereby became a "record-holder." It goes on to note other old people who held the "title" either as what hobbyists call "successors" or "predecessors". Human longevity is an encyclopedic topic. But individual long-lived people are not notable for holding mythical championships. Some long-lived people are, no doubt, notable for our purposes. Our policies identify them as subjects who have been covered in multiple, independent WP:reliable sources. Ms. Kensley carries none of the indicia of notability. David in DC (talk) 15:08, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Oldest people#Chronological list of the verified oldest living person since 1955 NewYorkActuary (talk) 23:07, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.