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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Elena Huelva[edit]

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Looks to me as a case of WP:SINGLEEVENT, notability is not established. Moreover, there is the strange cross-wiki promotion of this article Renvoy (talk) 20:45, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Spain. Renvoy (talk) 20:45, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep. It is true (and unnecessary) that this article is being created in too many languages (probably caused by the action of fans); however I do support its permanence in the Spanish Wikipedia (where several non-recently-created users have already supported its permanence), or in this case in the English-language Wikipedia.
    In this case, I think that the most coherent for this article is to exist in Wikipedias of some of the languages spoken in Spain (Spanish, Catalan, Basque), and maybe in other languages such as Portuguese or French; therefore I consider that it is also coherent to have this article in English, the current global lingua franca. And regarding Elena Huelva, there is abundant information about her actions and activism before her death, to be able to affirm that it is not a case of WP:SINGLEEVENT. Salvabl (talk) 21:23, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment: FYI the articles in Aragonese, Asturian, Catalan, Cebuano, German, Esperanto, Extremeño, Euskera, French, Galician, Portuguese, Swedish and Finnish are automatic transalations created by two sockpuppets of Remitbuber, a very dangerous crosswiki saboteur and meatpuppeteer, see Maitegonza68 and Tripasviccion global contributions and global blocks. This isn't a work of fans, this is a deliberate act that is exposing the weaknesses of the Wikimedia Foundation's projects and Salvabl is taking advantage of this gap created by the saboteur to force the relevance of the biography on all possible Wikipedias. This can set a bad crosswiki precedent. Taichi (talk) 04:55, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
     Comment: Regardless of which user started the creation of the articles, no puppet or newly created user has added any comment to this deletion discussion page. On the other hand, and as I have already explained in the Spanish Wikipedia, it is totally false when you claim, for example, that this article in the Catalan Wikipedia is an automatic translation. One only needs to check its history to realize that it is not as you say. Then, you claim that I am "taking advantage" of the existing situation, when, as I have already said in my first comment on this page, I do not consider it necessary for this article to exist in so many languages. I can agree with you when you state that this is not a work of fans, but an act of another nature. But, then, if you consider that this article should cease to exist on Wikipedia in Cebuano (for example), then you should propose a possible deletion there. However, you are talking about all this here while claiming that I am the one who is "taking advantage". And also, on the other hand, it should be taken into account that there are other Wikipedias, such as the German one, where German-speaking users have chosen to check and edit the article, and not to propose its deletion, since there are even German-language sources (see here) about Huelva. Salvabl (talk) 14:36, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Defer to/wait for the result of Spanish-language AfD. There is an ongoing Spanish-language AfD that is probably better able to assess the available sources and context, and does not seem yet to be near a consensus. From what my Spanish can make out, the discussion there seems to be going along the lines I'd expect this AfD to go: Huelva had a significant online following on Instagram and TikTok that seems to be contributing actively to these articles across Wikis, and there is significant source coverage of her death in the popular press (contributing to interest in her life) but is it WP:SINGLEEVENT? My instinct is that Huelva is more likely to meet WP:SINGLEEVENT by virtue of being a cancer activist, so looking to her book sales and online following is more helpful to establish notability. But I'd wait to see how the Spanish-language AfD goes as it's probably going to have the discussion there that we would have here. _MB190417_ (talk) 21:43, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:51, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep, she's got coverage in the BBC [1], the Independent as quoted and in People [2]. Oaktree b (talk) 23:38, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What single event are we disputing as being notable, her death? The sources cover her career, her activism, her life and passing away. She gained media attention in Spanish-language media long before she passed. Oaktree b (talk) 23:43, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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