Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Einstein (dog)

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The result was merge to Red Dead Redemption 2, and restore redirect to List of Back to the Future characters#Einstein‎. This is becoming a storm in a teacup and a classic example of an IAR case. Boldly closing to prevent further drama. — 🦊 03:36, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Einstein (dog)[edit]

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It doesn't take an Einstein to see that a single motion capture role for a video game doesn't merit a standalone article. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:30, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomming an article is one thing, but there's really no need to crack jokes about a dead dog. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 21:50, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Animal. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:51, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge content into Red Dead Redemption 2, redirect page to List of Back to the Future characters#Einstein; the dog's notability comes solely from the game and doesn't have enough singular weight to warrant a separate article. The article was almost certainly created due to his recent passing, which isn't enough to establish notability. Additionally, the page was a former redirect to List of Back to the Future characters#Einstein, which has and almost certainly will persist as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 21:52, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recommend Closing discussion since this is about a recently deceased individual for multiple reasons; among them WP:INSPECTOR and WP:BIOSPECIAL. I further object to the nominator's inappropriate cracking of a joke at the expense of a recently deceased dog. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 22:07, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Request discussion closure since apparently the fact that I wrote WP:INSPECTOR has led me to be accused of being a sockpuppet? I have reverted the edits, and so since further contributions are unlikely to be helpful I think we should just move on. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 22:22, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge content into Red Dead Redemption 2, redirect page to List of Back to the Future characters#Einstein per Knightoftheswords281, no further argument to add. There is no further sourcing coming up in WP:VG/S's custom search engine except for the death. -- ferret (talk) 22:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. -- ferret (talk) 22:16, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge content into Red Dead Redemption 2, redirect page to List of Back to the Future characters#Einstein per above. Dawnbails (talk) 22:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Red Dead Redemption 2 and restore redirect per others. The sarcasm in the nomination was probably poor taste, especially if the dog's owners end up reading this discussion, but nevertheless, simply creating an obituary is not a valid reason to have a Wikipedia article, and can lead to significant awkwardness when that runs up against actual policy. The article creator is clearly significantly emotionally invested in this circumstance but that alone cannot cause the rules to be bended, and this is a situation where WP:SUSTAINED applies. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:52, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Since I have repeatedly asked that this discussion be closed and the content reverted (and have attempted to do so myself) due to my own agreement that it does not meet notability, I am unsure how I am asking for "rules to be bended". The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 22:59, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
AFD discussions are not closed solely because of the creator’s request. Frostly (talk) 23:01, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But they are supposed to be closed when further contributions are unlikely to be helpful and when an issue has a snowball's chance in hell of being accepted. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 23:07, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please be aware an uninvolved closer must close the AfD, which should happen eventually. However, the involved page creator is not permitted to do these things and we are not yet at the WP:SNOW stage of things in my estimation, so saying it should be closed due to that is premature. Possibly in a day or two it will be, but that is up to the closer, who again must be uninvolved, to decide. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:13, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has been blanked as a courtesy.

Merge with Red Dead Redemption 2 Redirect to List of Back to the Future characters#Einstein Agree per above. Bobherry Talk My Edits 00:05, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Request for closure again, since I have again been denigrated and scolded and again been accused of sockpuppetry off-wiki on the discord (which I have now left). This is a clear case of WP:SNOW, attempts to fix the issue met with bad faith attacks...I don't even know what to say at this point. The Pony Toast 🍞 (Talk) 02:03, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Please stop taking things out of context. We were explaining that the creator of the WP:INSPECTOR redirect was the sockpuppet, nae the essay, the redirect CiphriusKane (talk) 02:08, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.