Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Earliest serving United States governor

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Earliest serving United States governor[edit]

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Sheer trivia. There are infinite ways to parse out a database of United States governors—there's no compelling reason to have such an obscure list. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:29, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This is kind of a random article. It's just a random intersection of facts and not particularly relevant. And it's completely unsourced after six years of existence, leading to a reasonable conclusion that the entire thing is original research. And what do we do with unsourced original research? We delete it. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The rationale for the article seems more like something from a logic puzzle than an encyclopedia. Sorry to have to say this since I see a lot of work and thought went into it. Borock (talk) 19:09, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOR. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 20:39, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:LISTN (not discussed in reliable sources as a set). Ansh6 6 6 01:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This article certainly doesn't fail WP:NOR, as the simple macros you can run against either World Statesmen or NGA are WP:CALC, and I believe that with the attention the article has received recently, a text section shouldn't be hard to muster, nor (for WP:LISTN and WP:TRIVIA) does it seem so overly random so as to violate WP:NOTDIR, the only issue being WP:OC. As far as a rebuttal to that, the political communities has made it known that they find lists like this relevant, and at least two somewhat similar lists have been kept after a nomination [1] [2]. Star Garnet (talk) 07:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Figuring out for yourself who does and less not qualify for the list is not "routine calculation". We are having a disagreement right now on the talk page about the inclusion of some territorial governors. Unless we have a source that specifically discusses this specific concept it very much is original research to figure it out for ourselves based on vague or even non-existent criteria. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:22, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll admit that it isn't a well-discussed topic (with [3], [4] and [5] being the only obvious references to the topic (and the last referencing the page in question)), and though I dispute your assertion that this isn't a routine calculation, it is 100% verifiable (excepting governors who have uncertain lifespans) and can be reformatted to any set of criteria that editors can agree on. Star Garnet (talk) 17:36, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Am I missing something? The article just seems to be about "Earliest serving Governors currently living", which is a rather bizarre topic for an article. Earliest serving governor, maybe; earliest serving governor currently living, definitely not. We've passed from "potentially useful information" to "listcruft", as far as I can tell. Delete. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 03:44, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as trivia. -- Whpq (talk) 16:29, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:OR, WP:LISTN, WP:TRIVIA, etc. etc. etc. Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 06:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Trivial non-encyclopedic information. Superman7515 (talk) 14:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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