Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eagles-Redskins rivalry

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The result was keep. (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000^(talk) 06:24, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Eagles-Redskins rivalry[edit]

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I'm not doubting that a rivalry exists between the two teams but this article is poorly written, not sourced and it does not assert that a rivalry exists. Clecol99 (talk) 21:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 August 31. Snotbot t • c » 09:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural close - no policy-based reason for deletion presented. A poorly written, unsourced article is not a reason for deletion. I've also cleaned up the messy nomination statement. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 09:39, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 09:59, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 10:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington, DC-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 10:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I will assume in good faith that the nominator meant to assert a lack of notability, but notability is obvious: a longtime rivalry between two NFL teams that play in the same division, there's plenty potential material to develop this article; one might start with "Eagles-Redskins is a rivalry for the ages" (video) and the various book sources that come up on a GBooks search for <Eagles Redskins rivalry>. ~~Please note that the notice for this AfD on the article page still needs technical attention.~~ I think I fixed it. Dashes vs. hyphens! --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:09, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Where are the book sources? Can you link them to me as the first few pages on Google books doesn't indicate anything about a rivalry between the two teams, some of which, including the vital Redskins Encyclopedia I do own. Secret ^account 01:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Xrt6L (talk) 17:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Why, WP:NOTAVOTE AFD is not a vote? Secret ^account 01:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:NOR. Every time two teams play each other, any claims of "rivalry" comes up, especially in the local news media. That doesn't indicate that there is really a "rivalry" between the two teams. These kind of articles usually need much stronger sources to sustain having a Wikipedia article. Outside localized sources, sources that came up during the Redskins acquisition of Donovan McNabb, or trivial mentions I don't see the case here, probably because both teams peaks never overlapped with each other, and they aren't in the same division. Secret ^account 01:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Eagles and Redskins do play in the same division. The rivalry doesn't have to be at the level of the Redskins and Cowboys to be a notable rivalry with substantial coverage. In addition to the "rivalry for the ages" report I noted above, Michael Richman, author of the aforementioned Redskins Encyclopedia, describes Redskins-Eagles as "a combustible rivalry . . . one of the oldest and most compelling duels in NFL history." [1] --Arxiloxos (talk) 02:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:42, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I'm surprised this hadn't been created earlier. I am also assuming good faith and having said that, there is a lot of history between these two teams. Over 150 meetings and they have been playing since 1934, there are a lot of great games between these two teams. There is definetly plenty of material in the archives to expand this article. Peetlesnumber1 (talk) 01:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep personally I don't like rivalry articles. But WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a reason to delete. Other than that, I see plentiful coverage to pass WP:GNG. Poorly written? WP:SOFIXIT.--Paul McDonald (talk)

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