Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eabhai

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 00:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eabhai[edit]

An unreferenced article on a single sound in the Irish language. I am tagging this for deletion as non-notable because I don't think we need a separate article on every variation of sounds in every language. I suggest a merge to Irish orthography but I would like to see what others think first. Here is a list of related articles that I am also nominating:

Comment. Historically, Irish pirates raided the coasts of Wales, and made off with all of their vowels. After this redistribution, they found themselves with a surfeit of vowels in Ireland, and began using them purely for ornament.

That said, I'd take note of all of the articles listed in Template:Digraphs. The nominated articles seem only to be the latest in a long series of articles covering various aspects of the use of the Latin alphabet to write various languages. Whatever happens here, I suggest that all of these articles perhaps ought to share a common fate.- Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I agree 100% here and so that is why I just nominated the hexagraphs. If there is a consensus to delete these here, I will go ahead and nominate the rest. Its too big of a task to nominate all of them just to have them kept, so thats why I just nominated these. Tavix (talk) 21:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep—Pending greater input from somewhere else. Ihcoyc's point about {{Digraphs}} is exactly what I was going to say. However, I'll take it one step further, and state that since there is more than one person working on these, and some are quite well developed (see Ough (combination)) that they all ought to stay. I don't think wide enough consensus will be reached here to delete 300-ish articles, so if anyone feels strongly enough about it to take it to Village Pump or something, go for it. Livitup (talk) 17:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Ough is an exception because it can represent so many different sounds. Other than that, your "keep" statement is just a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Tavix (talk) 21:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Believe me, I realize that, and OSE is usually something I rail against at XfD. But in this case, you've got a very large group of aritcles that were all created in good faith, and edited by multiple people, and I don't think the consensus of the few people who will vote here is enough to begin a mass deletion campaign on them all. I'm just lobbying for a wider audience before any action is taken. Livitup (talk) 12:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep—Pending greater input from others. It becomes difficult if we delete this and not the others. I think all of them should be kept. InFairness (talk) 08:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Multigraphs are quite common in languages using the Latin alphabet, and their rendering varies from one language to another. While hexagraphs might not be common, their existence nevertheless warrants an article which could be mentioned in the main articles about the languages that use them. People who consult WP:LRC could also make good use of these articles. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 00:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is the kind of geeky thing that is difficult to find if you're interested, so I don't think the info should simply be deleted. I could see merging them with the hexagraph article, since they only occur in one language. The same goes for the pentagraphs. However, many of the shorter multigraphs have the potential to be expanded substantially. While many only list one language at present, most are found in many more, and often for very different sounds, which could be awkward to merge into a single article. Multigraphs using the apostrophe for ejective consonants, and click letters ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ have been omitted, but Irish is of more interest to many English speakers. kwami (talk) 00:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.