Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dreadful

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 02:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Dreadful

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Article about a special usage of the word in railfan jargon. Transwiking an prodding have already ben tried. Given that there are no external sources and there exists already List of UK railfan jargon, I see no reason to have this article. Tikiwont 09:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

There's an external link on the article; http://www.dreadful.org.uk/jargon.htm (You'll have to scroll down, as the Javascript on the Letters doesent appear to work for me), and another at http://www.rodge.force9.co.uk/faq/basher.html .

Quotes from http://www.dreadful.org.uk/memories_of_the_westerns_by_paul.htm , showing the context;

By now Wellington was in a hell of a state. Quite what the returning Saturday shoppers on the train thought of the bellowing - well judge for yourself. Wellington's frequent renditions of 'Keep right on to the end of the road' could be heard throughout the train, although that line didn't quite apply to us as we had to bale out at Neath for 1A07. When it appeared round the curve, Wellington screamed from the station footbridge 'my lords it's dreadful' at such a pitch that they heard it in Newtown, Newport and all points between.

Wellington was in his usual dreadful state, bellowing out of the window 'my lords- that's it, that's it' when a couple of Nuns interrupted him to ask ' ha, what is it, what is it?'

If it's not suitable, fine, I apologise, but 'dreadful' is a fairly well known term, and one that I've used myself (although when enjoying Brush, rather than Maybach thrash - oh the pain of being born about 15 years too late ;) )

Just my tuppence-worth anyway :) Muchclag 11:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 10:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Even if this were a well-known and well-referenced term (IMHO it's not), it would still fall under WP:NOT a dictionary. And certainly not a dictionary of slang used by a particular type of fan group in one region. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete We have references (though not ones satisfying WP:A which claim that railfans in a given country yell "My lordz its dreadful" (or at least that one called Wellington (apparently not Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington) did so once) when they are enjoying looking at a train. First, Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Second Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day seems to apply here, although the fans are not identified as schoolboys. A small group made up a word or word usage which lacks currency in general use. Same thing. Last, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Edison 14:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• Weak DeleteOK, I see your point. It's a little hard trying to find written sources for terms such as this IMHO, as it is very much a vocal expression. Although I've been unable to find other, contextual, sources, putting 'dreadful' into Google brings up, as the first result, the website I've linked to in this discussion. Muchclag 18:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - coverage in an article on railway slang is probably sufficient. Wiktionary might be interested in this as an alternate use for the word, with sources or whatever they want there. I'm saying all this as a pretty intense fan of all things on rails, too. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 18:57, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• RA to Vic Berry's.. er sorry, Delete - can only be a dicdef of a slang term in use by a small group of people, and a reference already exists at List of UK railfan jargon - it could be expanded upon in that article. EliminatorJR ^Talk 23:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as utterly NN neologism specific to a small group of enthusiasts. --Dhartung | Talk 08:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.