Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dracosuchus

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete WP:CSD#G3 blatant hoax. It is right to be cautious about speedy-deleting hoaxes, because surprising things are sometime true; but the evidence here is overwhelming and there is no need for this to linger for a week. JohnCD (talk) 19:11, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Dracosuchus

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I declined a request for speedy ('vandalism') as I feel discussion is needed. I am not happy about the easily accessible references, and from the main bulk of ghits for the title being at deviantart, I am dubious about the inaccessible ones too. Peridon (talk) 17:25, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Reasons for speedy deletion

• Google search for "Dracosuchus" gives 157 results, most of which are from deviantART, were the name was given to several different imaginary creatures.
• Google search for "Dracosuchus ornithonychus" gives only this article.
• Refs are fake, or not connected to the (fake) subject:
  • Both Marsh (1892) refs cannot be located online, even at archives of the American Journal of Science that allegedly published them.
  • Dinohunter ref is real, but supports only the existence of the name Dracosaurus (Aggasiz, 1846).
  • Paul Sereno' site doesn't have an entry named "Dracosuchus: Junior Synonym of Ceratosaurus?" or any reference of "Dracosuchus" for that matter..
  • Here is the real Marsh (1884) that allegedly named "Dracosuchus". It doesn't even mention that name!
  • The book "The Dinosauria" (that I own) doesn't mention it either, as it can be searched using books.google.com .
  • Same for "Dinosaur Crime Scene Investigations".
• There is no paleontological database (or "genera list") that lists that name.

(from the article' talk page by me) Rnnsh (talk) 17:33, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

• Update: NO results of searching "Dracosuchus" in the news (google), books (google), images (google), scholar or JSTOR.
• Thus I vote for Speedy delete.Rnnsh (talk) 17:42, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

• Speedy delete Hoax. Keri (talk) 17:45, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
• Good catch, speedy delete as a hoax with fake references. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 17:45, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete Zero hits in Google books and Google scholar, other than this hoax article. The editor responsible has only a single edit under this account - posting this hoax - but must have previous Wikipedia experience. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:39, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.