Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doug Traub

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 00:17, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doug Traub[edit]

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Article fails WP:ANYBIO. Subject has not work a well know of significant award. Has not make a widely recognized contribution that is part of the historical record. Article reads a bit like a WP:RESUME. Did WP:BEFORE, was unable to find other sources that would have made this person notable. Checked Google, Google Books, Google Scholar, and the Newspaper archives. There is content for some of the things that he did but nothing that would rise to meet the requirements of WP:ANYBIO. Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:59, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Businesspeople. Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:59, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio, Advertising, Travel and tourism, California, Florida, Georgia (U.S. state), New York, and North Carolina. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:03, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The recommendation to delete the article appears rash; perhaps the page was analyzed before citations were added. There were hundreds of articles and several books that mentioned Doug Traub over the past few decades; most of them are no longer online, however, especially as most major newspapers and magazines now archive stories and make them only available to subscribers. Regardless, several articles from significant news sources like the Associated Press are now cited and archived in the article, and dozens of stories are still online (The Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, etc.) that have not been cited. Please take another look. FrequentTraveler100 (talk) 03:59, 8 January 2024 (UTC) FrequentTraveler100 (talk) 04:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FrequentTraveler100 Sure no problem just point out which references address any of these points WP:ANYBIO. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:20, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm hitting the sack in a bit, but let me address your issues now before I turn in by pointing out three areas where the Doug Traub article meets the Wikipedia Notability criteria:

Any biography: Doug Traub made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record - the Surf City USA trademark and the attendant publicity are recognised as part of the historical record in California Tourism (the Surf City USA page itself is within the scope of the WikiProject California project) and trademark branding (the Surf City USA trademark is within the scope of the WikiProject Law).

Creative professionals: The person's work has become a significant monument - the Fayetteville History Museum within the restored Cape Fear and Yadkin Valley railway depot that Doug Traub led the charge to rehabilitate after remaining vacant and dilapidated for more than 50 years meets this criteria.

Politicians and judges: Doug Traub is a local political figure who received significant press coverage. This final criteria alone should be more than sufficient to meet the Wikipedia notability criteria.

Thanks for pointing out your issues with this article and providing me with an opportunity to respond to your concerns. Good night! FrequentTraveler100 (talk) 05:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Tampa Bay Times is essentially a newspaper of record. Decent local coverage too. I think this meets notability. TLA (talk) 03:04, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, but one source isn't enough. Oaktree b (talk) 15:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, numerous new additional sources have been added for this page, including The Guardian, Los Angeles Times, San Diego Union-Tribune, NBC News/Associated Press and Las Vegas Review-Journal. I am currently making a substantial revision to the Surf City USA page where Traub is also cited which includes links to stories all over the world, including a front page story on the Wall Street Journal. Please do not be too hasty to pull the trigger on this page. I hope to return to it before the end of the week and bolster the citations quite a bit more. Thank you. FrequentTraveler100 (talk) 01:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Puffy stories used for this marketing person, not seeing any about his specifically. He does stuff related to travel, but nothing we'd use for article sourcing here. Oaktree b (talk) 15:22, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 03:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NotAGenious (talk) 16:50, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.