Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Carmine (cigar brand)

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The result was Delete. Stuffing the debate with socks doesn't help this AfD. (aeropagitica) 05:48, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don Carmine (cigar brand)[edit]

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Contested prod as advertisement for start-up non-notable cigar brand that get no Google hits. Request closing admin to check editors histories before deciding to Save.

Delete as per my nom. Dlyons493 Talk 21:23, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - does not meet WP:CORP. Thryduulf 21:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Save - content is accurate and cigar is distributed heavily in the northern US. ~~Astiabuono 21:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)~~ Forged signature; recommendation actually by User:Doncarmine.[reply]

Delete, I'm sure they taste and smell great, but nobody besides you has heard of them [1]. Clearly not comparable to, say, Black & Milds. — CharlotteWebb 21:37, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

~~Save~~ - There are a ton of cigar brands, to censor what brands can be listed is ignorent. People should have the right to do their research before buying a product and that is what this service allows them to do. ~~celtic02855 21:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)~~ Forged signature; recommendation actually by User:Doncarmine; struck as double vote per WP:AFD.[reply]
~~Save~~ - i just read a list of cigar brands on wikipedia that probably ammounts to over 100 brands and i know very few. unless you are an aficianado who is to say what is a notable brand in the cigar industry. ~~jsmith 21:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)~~ Forged signature; recommendation actually by User:Doncarmine; struck as double vote per WP:AFD.[reply]

Comment Reliable sources, of course. The link documents what reliable sources are. ColourBurst 23:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - it's the recent production that zaps notability in my mind. "Est. 2006" means to me that they're just another brand right now, although I'll grant that in time they may well become notable. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Save - it is my understanding that although this brand was est. in 2006, PucciMac purchased the A. Costa product line last year from Arturo Fuente (est. early 1900's) and tookup production under another name. I might be wrong but I don't think so. I personally am aware of the brand and do like their product, so I think in time this name will become widely noted.Nishkid64 22:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC) Forged signature; recommendation actually by User:24.166.106.24.[reply]
- Comment. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, we have articles on things that are not things that might be. Thryduulf 22:54, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as failing WP:V; no evidence from WP:RS that this cigar company, assuming it exists, meets WP:CORP. WP:NOT a crystal ball also applies, per Thryduulf. --Kinu ^t/_c 23:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I've also taken the liberty of striking out the forged signatures and duplicate recommendations from the creator of this article. Your opinion matters, but forging signatures doesn't do much for your credibility. --Kinu ^t/_c 23:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I smell pork and smelly socks. Delete as failing WP:VSCA. The brand's not notable, it's newly launched in 2006. This attempt at inclusion in wiki is part of the marketing push and has no part in wiki per WP:NOT soapbox. 7 unique out of 9 Ghits for "Don carmine" + cigar, of which 2 relevant. Take away the wiki ones, and the other two are from the company's website. Ohconfucius 10:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per User:Ohconfucius for teaching me a new word. I must say the forged signatures did not sway me in the least. Not that it doesn't read like a ad-- it does. :) Dlohcierekim 00:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. --Merovingian - Talk 00:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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