Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't Leave...

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The result was delete. While the flaws with the nom with respect to English-language sourcing have been addressed, no sourcing has been identified that meets GNG in Russian either. Star Mississippi 03:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Meager sourcing, no sources in English. All plot. Seems like a minor effort. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 17:51, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Film, and Russia. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 17:51, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Me and user Newyorkbrad are both against deletion of this article. This demand that a Wikipedia article must have English language sources is completely ridiculous — Wikipedia must have international editors and articles of interest to the whole world, and not just for American audiences. Just Another Cringy Username has a history of needlessly tagging decent articles for deletion. This user has been a Wikipedia editor for only 4 months and has an obsession with deleting articles rather than creating or improving them - he/she is possibly a vandal. Me and Newyorkbrad on the other hand have had our accounts for many years. Just Another Cringy Username should be investigated. Er nesto (talk) 18:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment it's more the fact that the sources are slim at best, English or not. Leaning delete on this one unless someone can find better sources. Oaktree b (talk) 21:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 18:34, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Leonid Nechayev? Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 19:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is no requirement that all sources must be in English. I'm surprised to see this mentioned as a deletion rationale. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:30, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, there are only two cites, neither of them in English. This might be a good subject for Russian WP, but it probably doesn't merit inclusion here. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 17:18, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What makes you think that the Russian Wikipedia has such different standards from the English? Once again, there is no requirement here for sources to be in English. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if the only sources anyone can find are in Russian, it makes me think that the subject is only notable in the Russian-speaking world. Not that hard to fathom. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 19:59, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's very hard to fathom that a serious encyclopedia should restrict itself only to topics that are sourced in one language. That whole approach is against everything that Wikipedia stands for. Would you say that the Manx Wikipedia should only have articles that are sourced in Manx? Phil Bridger (talk) 20:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not necessarily. However, just because an article is notable enough for Manx WP, does that mean it's automatically notable for every other language? Even if the subject of that article is unknown in that language?

I never said sources should be limited to one language; I said articles should be limited to the language of their sources. Manx WP need not limit itself to Manx sources, but if only Manx sources can be found, then that topic is probably not appropriate for, say, German WP.

Here we have an article for which the only sources offered are in Russian. If you can find English sources to supplement the Russian ones, by all means edit them in. Otherwise, I would argue that the lack of RS in English makes this topic more appropriate for Russian WP than for English. Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 22:19, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
fwiw, it doesn't even have an English-language title on IMDB - so I'm not sure anyone will ever search for "Don't Leave..." on en-wiki. -- asilvering (talk) 03:34, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ru-wiki does have very different standards for sources than en-wiki, at least in practice (their notability guidelines appear to be a translation of ours). Those two sources on the Russian article are both to youtube. Neither would be admissible for notability criteria here. -- asilvering (talk) 03:36, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No apparent sources in Russian either. ru-wiki even has this sentence: "И юбилейный для фильма год, и смерть Красавина остались практически незамеченными в средствах массовой информации." ("Both the anniversary of the film and Krasavin's death went virtually unnoticed in the media.") -- asilvering (talk) 03:41, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and asilvering. That excerpt from ru-wiki seems to support absence of notability. Doczilla _{@SUPERHEROLOGIST} 19:54, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment My thanks to those editors who checked out the Russian article and sources. It's times like these that I regret that in my schooling I've studied 5 languages for about 2-3 years each rather than 1 language for 5+ years so I'd be some help with the necessary translation work around here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:14, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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