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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Given that most of the participants here have been blocked as sockpuppets, it would be impossible to fairly judge consensus. –Juliancolton | Talk 00:51, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dil Jan Khan[edit]

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The article doesn't meet the Wiki:Notability, as the rank is not anything but equal to Additional Secretary / Secretary of British Bureaucracy. There are hundreds of Inspector Generals of Police in Pakistan. In any case it is not something which shouldn't be hinted. Recommended for Strong Deletion --LineofWisdom (talk) 20:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note to Admin - The AFD discussion header was missing causing it to be easily overlooked in going through the AFD lists. The duration of the AFD likely should be extended. -- Whpq (talk) 14:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Looks like a bureaucrat with a job. Not much else. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | Talk 00:08, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete the page's editors must make a better case for the notability of the subject. How significant were the positions held? Where are RS covering him? JJL (talk) 02:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete Why the deletion is delayed, when there is no chance at all to prove his notability. --LineofWisdom (talk) 11:32, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply - The discussion is being help open because the nomination was malformed. There was no proper header for the nomination making it difficult for other editors to see it in the list of nominations. -- Whpq (talk) 11:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re-Reply - I was unaware to create it, However, the Header created by you has even taken a time. But no problem, I can wait for a decission. --LineofWisdom (talk) 12:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Apparently the nomination seems to be based on personal vendetta and family feud. The person who has made this nomination has only focused on two articles only. On the other hand this article has been on Wikipedia for more than two years and fulfills the criteria of being the head of an International Agency. I recommend a Keep. -- MARWAT  17:32, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't know, how come you, [[User:Marwatt| have accussed me for personal vendetta and fasmily fued, while I am son of a Punjabi speaking family and nothing to do with Pashtuns. Should I start nominating 100 articles, rather the two seems appropriate to me. What if the un-qualified Article exists for more than a decade here? Does it gives it sanctity? No, he has never remained the Head of International Organisation. It is just a desk at UN, who he was head. If he is qualified for creating an article for him, there would be hundred thousand of new articles for every desk-head at UN since its birth, back in 1946. Once again, Strong Delete. --LineofWisdom (talk) 07:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to Closing Admin/Editor - Whatever the result is but the closing Administrator/Editor is requested to kindly look at the history of the user who nominated this article as well as the other article on Abdul Majeed Khan Marwat. The point is that both the articles relate to two gentlemen who belong to the same clan of Marwat's and that almost all of his edits are related to insertions of his family member names in the parent article on Marwat which was created by me. So before finalizing this AFD vote, his true biased intentions may also be kept in mind as he was yesterday confirmed to have a sock which was banned by another admin. Thanks. -- MARWAT  11:02, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


  • Note to Administrators Wether, I am a biased person or using sock, which i am not, still it wouldn't harm the wikipedia's policy regarding deletiong of this article. On one side, the ;"> MARWAT  is accusing me of inserting the familuy fellows, while on the other he is accusing me to be RayofWisom. Note that both, me and RayofWisom has voted against each other. My intentions couldn't be guessed by anyone else, as it is God only and myself who knows my intentions. But once again, wether I am a criminal or whatever, will it harm the policies of Wikipedia regarding this article? The article be deleted.--LineofWisdom (talk) 11:46, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, regardless of whether Marwat is correct in saying that this was nominated because of a vendetta, this article concerns a nonnotable person. Ultimately, it doesn't matter; if I nominate two articles about people in a group with each other, does that mean that I'm biassed against them? Even if it is meant to make a point, we can ignore that for now and delete it just as if this nomination were made by a neutral party. Nyttend (talk) 15:10, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Although, a personal relative of mine, Dil Jan Khan, has never remained on a notableposition. The position he held in UN is totally a bureacuratic position, where usually Grade-21 (equvalient to Major General) officers are inducted from member countries. --Marwat786 (talk) 07:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC) — Marwat786 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Note to Nyttend - I respect your opinion however, what would you say about a vote by Marwat786 who appears as another sock puppet of LineofWisdom as this account was created only today and solely for voting on these two pages of Dil Jan Khan and Abdul Majeed Khan Marwat. I can counter LineofWisdom by creating fake accounts, however, I don't believe in such absurdities. As an administrator it is your duty to keep an eye on such malicious elements. I would once gain repeat that what ever the result of this AFD, I would request to strike out all such fake votes and ban this user as well. -- MARWAT  12:29, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to Nyttend I not only respect your comments but of each individual here. I am surfing Wikipedia since 2008, atleast once in fortnight. I recently created this I.D when it felt that being a native and Marwat myself, I must not keep quite on the issues relating to my tribe and its elder. I don't know how Marwatt is so confidant that I am Sock of other user who is much criticised for none. Now, when he has challenged my indetity, it is his moral duty to prove that I am using sock. Actually, he cannot see someone voting against him. He neverwants someone else than him, espcially from Marwat tribe, to speak and have freedom of writing here. If I am uneligible to vote on the very first day - my aim for making this I.D is cleared above - then my vote be declared null and void. But I request you administrators to track the previous record (from 2006 to date) of this user Marwatt to know his state of mind on article Marwat. It wonders me that he never talks regarding the deletion or whatever the subject is, but always challenges the Users' authority to defend any of the Articles that he wants to be here, wether of a Notable or obscure personality. In the end, is it fair to talk about users at Article for Deletions, rather debating and addressing the issues? Is there no administrator to stop his such notorious writings? --Marwat786 (talk) 17:01, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
*Keep I laugh to hear the discussion. The Administrator are requested to search through the official website of the Government of Pakistan i.e www.pakistan.gov.pk . Dil Jan has remained Federal Secretary Interior, SAFRON and Narcotics Control. This is the highest rank a civil servant can aspire to reach. (Begukhan (talk) 05:17, 19 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]
This user is a checkuser  Confirmed sock of Rayofwisom (talk · contribs). J.delanoygabsadds 17:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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