Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dick Cavett Meets ABBA

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The result was keep.--Kubigula (talk) 19:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dick Cavett Meets ABBA[edit]

Non-notable. I would not have nominated this had it been featured on an ABBA or other video in its entirety. However, this is a one-off band appearance on a show. Notability is not reliably sourced. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 20:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Tenacious D Fan (talk) 20:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mamma Mia, here I go again...Keep Both ABBA and Dick Cavett are more than notable. If the program is not on DVD, it is probably due to music clearance and/or performance rights issues, not a perceived lack of notability. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am saying because the program is not on DVD, it is less notable. I'm not speculating why it wasn't released on DVD/VHS. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused about this discussion. 5 of the 9 songs from this show are on The Complete Studio Recordings (ABBA album)#DVD 2 released by Universal; all 9 are on a poor-quality DVD called In Performance by "Classic Rock Productions", according to [1]. Was this entire program released on VHS but not DVD at some point? --Closeapple (talk) 22:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak~~ Keep: Claims in the article probably make it notable ~~if they are true~~. Bringing Dick Cavett over from the US was probably a big deal; it did show as a special on 5 different country's public TV channels in the 2 years after it was made. However, the major claim that would make it notable is that it was the last "concert" by ABBA. (The ABBA article, also unreferenced, says that they performed single songs together on a couple TV programs afterwards, at the end of 1982.) I'd upgrade to Keep if someone could find a solid source for this last-concert claim — it appears in 3 articles, the third being The Complete Studio Recordings (ABBA_album)#Live in April 1981 — but without citations on any of them. The referenced web page doesn't seem to make this claim. --Closeapple (talk) 22:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Found it: The Complete Studio Recordings release date and tracklist is an official Universal Music site and calls this program "ABBA’s final live concert". Changing from Weak Keep to Keep, and rearranged the article itself. --Closeapple (talk) 11:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep just echoing what Ecoleetage says above. WP:IAR if you argue notability isn't inherited; both subjects are notable, and a meeting between the two is notable. Might as well say the meetings between Regan and Gorby weren't notable, because notability isn't inherited. And the argument that the content is not available on DVD is a bit weak. How many films, recordings, etc, have been destroyed over the years, yet they still maintain notability? Take a look at List of lost films, shall we delete them because there is no media? Yngvarr (t) (c) 17:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.