Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deadheads for Obama

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (non-admin close) RMHED (talk) 00:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deadheads for Obama[edit]

Not-notable. One concert. One band. Fancruft. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 09:25, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. -- Tenacious D Fan (talk) 09:26, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How big & notable was this concert, do we know? That should be the deletion critera not it's length, as concerts like Self Aid and Rock for a Cause were only one day for example. Rob Riv (talk) 10:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Actually, can this not just be merged into the Grateful Dead article? It's fairly notable, just may not warrant its own article. Rob Riv (talk) 10:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~If it went anywhere, it would be to The Dead (band), where it is linked from. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]

A merge into Grateful Dead was already discussed at Talk:Grateful Dead#Deadheads for Obama and it was decided that both articles would be better if left separate. See that discussion section for why. Also, Deadheads for Obama should not be merged into The Dead (band) because they are two different things, i.e. it was not The Dead who performed the Deadheads for Obama concert, although there's a lot of overlap between the band members. — Mudwater^(Talk) 11:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it was already discussed for a merge, then I'm unsure that this should have been nominated for deletion at all as they seemed to decide that it warrants its own article. I'm quite happy to keep this then. Rob Riv (talk) 11:25, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I'm looking at Wikipedia:Notability and I don't see anything about one concert not being notable. On the contrary, the article satisfies the Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline: "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable." This is well documented in the References section. There are quite a few notable single concerts that meet this guideline and have articles in Wikipedia, including the two that Rob Riv mentioned above. Other examples include Woodstock Festival, Altamont Free Concert, The Concert for Bangladesh, and Monterey Pop Festival. — Mudwater^(Talk) 11:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I agree that individual concerts can be notable. Having this as a separate article also allows better categorization and linking from both music and political articles. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This was by one band only, unlike some of the concert/festivals you mentioned. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 11:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, how does that relate to whether we should keep it or not though? Rob Riv (talk) 11:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We have articles about the one concert by (primarily) one artist case too, such as Ahmet Ertegün Tribute Concert and The Supremes' farewell concert. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Some concerts are notable, especially ones that attracted this much attention. Meets WP:RS, and how is it fancruft?--I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 11:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Mudwater and our previous discussion. Addionne (talk) 12:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This generated a good bit of media attention at the time, outside of the usual entertainment press, and the context was quite unusual. — Gwalla | Talk 22:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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