Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Harris (software developer)

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 09:25, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

David Harris (software developer)[edit]

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not notable, just a software developer of 2 proprietary software Editor-1 (talk) 05:00, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:01, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Editor-1 (talk) 07:06, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as meeting WP:GNG because he was recognised by his peers as making a significant contribution to software development in New Zealand. I note that there is not a lot written about him, but both his software developments are still active NealeFamily (talk) 09:35, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

* You come from New Zealand and your fellow-citizen has very little coverage in press outside New-Zealand, all the references in the article are from that country and I don't think the Lifetime Achievement Award which is a friendly award, can give notability to this article. Editor-1 (talk) 11:11, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not an IT geek, but noting the comments on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mercury Mail Transport System, I get the impression that the software David Harris developed is more significant than the article states. It needs someone from the IT world to comment NealeFamily (talk) 08:45, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep This guy has been around a long time, kind of a founding father in internet mail, web communications. I am surprised his article is so small, [1] Govvy (talk) 13:35, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - he's certainly a major figure in the world of email software development. Sadly, he's also very much a recluse, so there isn't much information about him online. For what it's worth, here's a non-New Zealand article about him and his work. [2] Grutness...wha? 13:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Er, Grutness I already posted that link in my comment above! Govvy (talk) 13:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops! Right you are, guv. Grutness...wha? 13:55, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That link is all about "Pegasus Mail" and rarely mentioned him just as its developer, so it does not help to his notability. Editor-1 (talk) 09:12, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Lacking information which may not meet the WP:GNG, as I agree with Editor-1 he is just non notable software delvopler of just 2 proprietary softwares. Sheldybett (talk) 04:20, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor 15:57, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and expand Harris' work is part of the history of email as a platform, and was the subject of two Usenet newsgroups and several mailing lists. He's one of the few people who authored both a popular email server and a email client. The article needs work, but not deletion. Anirvan (talk) 17:57, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: If his work is really part of the E-mail history there should be many independent sources about him, but there is no significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. The fact is this person is just a regular software developer with little coverage about his 2 proprietary software. Editor-1 (talk) 08:54, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete Not enough material to support a standalone article, already mentioned in Pegasus Mail and Mercury Mail Transport System . OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:16, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Arguments that address the amount of reference material available, not what he did, would be helpful in determining notability.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 04:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pegasus was quite a thing in its day, and an interesting piece of world and NZ internet history. Yes this article is a stub, but keeping it gives a chance for it to be completed Somej (talk) 09:12, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.