Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David C. Hespe

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The result was keep. $Salvio$ 10:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David C. Hespe[edit]

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State level bureaucrat; does not seem to have notability. Half of the article (the 2nd paragraph) is dedicated to a "controversial" decision he made but doesn't seem that controversial and seems more focused on the person he appointed rather than the subject of the article. (Note, the editor who added that paragraph has a long history of attacking Cerf). only (talk) 10:20, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:55, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non notable --Devokewater (talk) 13:40, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per presumed nobility per Category:State cabinet secretaries of the United States by state.Djflem (talk) 10:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:55, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep passes WP:POLOUTCOMES, unfortunately. ——Serial 11:21, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this is not actually a cabinet level position so it does not create notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:04, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnpacklambert: Would you care to correct your incorrect claim?

Jennings, Katie (September 2, 2016). "Saying 'the time is right,' Hespe resigns as state education commissioner". Retrieved July 29, 2020. This was the second time Hespe, a generally well-liked and uncontroversial member of the Christie cabinet, had served as commissioner. He was also commissioner from 1999 to 2001.

"Cabinet". State of New Jersey. Retrieved July 29, 2020. Djflem (talk) 18:42, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for a third time as the discussion over whether the position meets WP:NPOL came very late in the AfD.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:54, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean Wikipedia:POLOUTCOMES, which states "Elected and appointed political figures at the national cabinet level are generally regarded as notable, as are usually those at the major sub-national level (US state, Canadian province, Japanese prefecture, etc.) in countries where executive and/or legislative power is devolved to bodies at that level."?

Keep per WP:POLOUTCOMES. We have dozens of articles about state-level superintendents of instruction, chancellors, and education commissioners. I don't agree that all state cabinet members are notable, but the education chief surely would be. Bearian (talk) 21:11, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep notable per WP:POLOUTCOMES Wm335td (talk) 22:20, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.