Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Datu Tucao O. Mastura

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The result was no consensus. L Faraone 17:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Datu Tucao O. Mastura[edit]

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CSD contested by SPA. Article about non-notable local politician and gubernatorial candidate. Fails WP:POLITICIAN. Dewritech (talk) 10:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, subject has receive passing mention in multiple non-primary reliable sources, but none of those sources give the subject of this AfD significant coverage; therefore the subject does not appear to be notable as defined by WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Subject is mayor of Sultan Kudarat, Maguindanao, a 1st class municipality of 121,324 people, however per WP:POLITICIANS mayors are not considered automatically notable; furthermore WP:POLOUTCOMES gives guidance on presumed notability of mayors, which the subject of this AfD does not appear to meet.

Subject may fall within the scope of WP:ROYAL but there doesn't appear to be a guideline about notability of royalty.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

comment - subject is the descendant of royalty, but the Philippines is a democracy and does not recognize any titles such as his ancestor(s) held. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:35, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just because the nation-state the individual is in doesn't recognize the title, doesn't mean that it doesn't impact the possibility of notability. For example see House of Hohenzollern; although no longer the Kaisers of Germany, they house is notable, and the heads of the royal house still is notable, as they often receive significant coverage. That being said, the subject of this AfD does not appear to have received such significant coverage.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:37, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Neutral - Unfortunately, there's not enough reliable sources about him. However, there's a possibility of systematic bias here, since we do have articles on royal descendants for other kingdoms. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 07:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On closer inspection, he does appear to have been mentioned in several sources, but mainly because of coverage for his candidacy for governor. I'm not sure if that would be enough to be considered significant coverage. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 07:42, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My reading of WP:POLITICIAN would say no. However, it is possible that there is enough coverage in Filipino sources to justify an article on him as the "Kingmaker" of the Mastura family and/or on the Mastura family as a political dynasty. Does anybody reading this discussion know what the coverage is in any of the Philippine languages? --Orange Mike | Talk 00:20, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On the fence, while sources increased when he ran for governor, it did describe him as the "kingmaker" in those parts. Now since most of the "kings" he "anointed" won pretty easily, that could've meant something. –H T D 15:22, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L Faraone 00:16, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar · · 15:31, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.