Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Darul Uloom New York

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The result was Delete. Regarding DGG's thoughtful point: since it is not clear how WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES can be applied in this case, we have to fall back on WP:GNG, at least for now. --MelanieN (talk) 00:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Darul Uloom New York[edit]

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Fails GNG by lots of miles. I don't think there is even one single reliable source which can be found mentioning this. My last PROD was contested because I used the word "lol" while prodding, so I'll just say that this article passing the first patrol is a laughable incident. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 06:38, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. -- 1Wiki8Q5G7FviTHBac3dx8HhdNYwDVstR (talk) 07:30, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. -- 1Wiki8Q5G7FviTHBac3dx8HhdNYwDVstR (talk) 07:30, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The article says this is a higher ed institution, but this is not a degree granting institution or a full service primary or secondary school. No coverage by reliable sources. Not listed at ed.gov. • Gene93k (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as my searches found nothing good. I'm inviting DGG for comment. SwisterTwister talk 04:44, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. We have not previously discussed Islamic higher education institutions of this sort, but I consider them equivalent in purpose and function to college level education is Western society. See the article on Darul uloom. for an explanation For one that has renamed itself, and added a medical school, & gone to the trouble of getting Western accreditation, see Dar Al Uloom University. I would suppose they award a degree of some sort, though I need to check what it would be called. The Western system of education is not the only one, and it too was derived from ecclesiastical roots. We treat all religious similarly, and their institutions likewise. DGG ( talk ) 17:02, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 23:15, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:GNG, for lack of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Yes, we have a number of articles about religious schools. This one just happens to fail the notability test. It is not a question of ecclesiastical roots. --Bejnar (talk) 23:59, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - New York has very strict laws on who may call themselves a college or university; Trump University was shut down for that. This is unaccredited and is not a real place of higher education. Bearian (talk) 21:56, 17 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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