Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danni Jensen

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The result was Nomination withdrawn. Giant Snowman 20:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Danni Jensen[edit]

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His only appearance in a fully pro match, came in the stoppage time against Vejle BK in 2008 [1]. He also played I have found nothing about this guy, since he had an unsuccessful trial with Norwegian club Bodø/Glimt in August 2011.

Even though he technically passes WP:NFOOTY, there is plenty of consensus in recent AfD's that playing a couple of minutes does not confer notability. This footballer also fails WP:GNG, as there isn't enough reliable sources out there that covers his career in detail. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:12, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question Are you saying that the article's [once cited] claim that he made an appearance in a UEFA Cup match is incorrect? Presumably the page is available on wayback? --Dweller (talk) 10:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, but I should have mention that one in my rationale: He also appeared in a UEFA Cup qualifier match against Cliftonville, but as the Northern Irish league is not fully pro, that match does not count NFOOTY; it is the one minute against Vejle that makes him pass NFOOTY. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:57, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. --Dweller (talk) 11:30, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For GNG, here is one piece of coverage. --Dweller (talk) 11:30, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but it's only the first paragraph in the "U-landslag" section that refers to Jensen, and that paragraph only says that he has played one match for FC København in three years, got 14 caps at youth international level, and that his contract expired that summer. I also found this, which says that Jensen did not get a contract with Bodø/Glimt because Mounir Hamoud did not leave the club, but that Bodø/Glimt was open to sign Jensen at a later point. This piece says that Jensen transferred to the amateur side Akademisk Boldklub, but that he was waiting for a new offer from Bodø/Glimt, while this says that Jensen will not wait for an offer from Bodø/Glimt, but instead look for another club to play for. I don't think that this is enough for GNG, but I anyone is better to look for sources than me, I will probably change my opinion. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:59, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have just updated the article on Danish wikipedia. In relation to his career he has played 5 matches for FC Copenhagen, one of them against Cliftonville FC in the UEFA League tournament. The match mentioned above against Vejle BK was a training match and is not included in the 5 "real" matches for FCK. Apart from Cliftonville FC he played against Viby IF in the Danish Cup (substitute after 62') and 3 other matches in the Danish Superliga. FC Copenhagen has just changed the format of its website, and apparently they have confused Danni Jensen with Daniel Jensen, so the three Superliga matches refers to three matches by Daniel, and not Danni. But the 5 matches are correct. It is not possible to deep-link into the new FCK-web site, so I cannot deliver a deep link, but information to the matches (and training matches) can be found on www.fck.dk.

After expiry of the FCK pro contract contract Danni Jensen trained with Akademisk Boldklub (Danish 1st Division) and Norwegian Bodø/Glimt. After the Norwegian team he joined Akademisk Boldklub, apparently as an amateur. In the Summer 2012 he moved to Boldklubben Avarta (Danish 2nd Division East) on a (semi?)pro contract. In February 2013 he moved to Boldklubben Frem, once a top club (six Danish titles) but today playing in 2nd Division. I expect his contract to be semi-pro.

He has made 14 appearances for the Danish national youth teams. There are links on the Danish article documenting the above, however, the time with FCK is a bit blurry on the new FCK-website.

The above are the facts. He meets the criteria on notability on Danish Wikipedia; whether this is the case on English Wikipedia is up to others to decide. Pugilist (talk) 15:07, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Plenty of first-team games verifiable, as per Pugilist. Pugilist, thank you so much for your help. Really appreciated. --Dweller (talk) 15:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't doubt that what you are saying is correct, but neither is supported by reliable sources, not even in the article on Danish Wikipedia. His Soccerway profile claims he has played two official matches for FC København, the match in the UEFA Cup against Cliftonville on 31 July 2008 and the Superliga match against Vejle on 6 October 2008 (not a friendly match). Do you have any reliable sources to support your claim that he has played 3 matches in Superligaen, or that he played 5 matches in total? (The soccerway profile says he was on the bench for two more Superligaen matches, but I'm sure you don't include those in your counting) And do you have any reliable sources that covers his career after 2011 ? Mentoz86 (talk) 09:14, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As mentioned above, the FCK-website has recently been updated making it impossible to deep link into player profiles. You therefore need to make a search on the player name from this site. If you search the player, you will find that he is noted for three Superliga games. Matches "on the bench" is not included in the statistics. Unfortunately, the update of the website is not perfect (to say the least) as the three delivered links to the three matches refers to three matches played by another player with an almost similar name. The Danish Wikipedia article contained matchinfo based on the previous more reliable FCK website. Pugilist (talk) 14:04, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the above, please see this article from a reliable website confirming the 5 noted matches for FCK. The article is in Danish; if you are not able to read it you can do a Google translate. The article on the Danish Wikipedia contains a link to the article from bold.dk. Pugilist (talk) 14:10, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When I search for Danni Jensen on the FCK-site, I get 5 matches total (without friendlies) with 4 of them being after Jensen left FCK, so I don't think we can rely on that site. I am Norwegian, so reading Danish isn't really any problem. "Førsteholdskampe" means "first-team matches", but that can include friendlies can't it? This article says that he got "one oficielle match" (én offisiell kamp) which in Norwegian usage means competetive matches (exluding friendlies). However, the discussion about how many appearances for FCK this guy got can continue on the talk-page, I'm withdrawing the nomination as I'm confident that this topic passes WP:GNG. Thank you for your help, Pugilist. Mentoz86 (talk) 18:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The new FCK-website has been improved the last few days and now contains reliable information. The 5 games for the player can now be confirmed. According to the website the 5 matches are one Superliga appearance, 3 Cup appearances and one UEFA Leage qualifier and 20 friendlies. Pugilist (talk) 22:02, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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