Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Eigenmann

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The result was delete. Guerillero | My Talk 06:43, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Eigenmann[edit]

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Non-notable hockey player; fails WP:NHOCKEY. Has played only a handful of games in the National League "A," spent his career in the Swiss minors. Ravenswing 19:05, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 22:14, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 22:15, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now. He seems to have played 10 more NLA games today, but I can't immediately find any non-trivial coverage from which to pass WP:GNG. Note also that the cite does not support the claim (it states only that he appeared in one game in the 2012-13 season, not that it was his NLA debut), and that the external link doesn't even go to the right player. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. Reso lute 23:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:41, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, isn't it enough if he is playing on the highest league in Switzerland? --Stryn (talk) 18:52, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nope. The SNG can only make the presumption that a player who has appeared at this level may be notable. When challenged, that presumption must be supported by showing the player meets the GNG. Reso lute 21:45, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Beyond that, the NHOCKEY guideline doesn't consider the Swiss league top-tier. In order to trigger NHOCKEY's presumptive notability -- which as Resolute correctly states, still must pass the GNG if challenged -- Eigenmann would have to have played at least 100 games at that level. He's played but a handful, and being a fringe player in a second-tier league doesn't confer notability. Ravenswing 21:49, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete doesn't meet NHOCKEY and I can find nothing that shows that he meets GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 13:40, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the fact that they may technically meet NHOCKEY (although that's obviously in dispute) is irrelevant given that he doesn't meet the WP:GNG. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 13:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC).[reply]
Keep or Redirect to GCK Lions where this player is mentioned. It is not a given that GNG sources do not exist until a proper search, including non-English-language sourse, has been undertaken. Note: When this ice hockey bio article was created it clearly met the criteria for inclusion under NHOCKEY for playing in Swizerland's top professional league.The nom should be reminded that deletion is a last resort, and per WP:BEFORE should only be used after other alternatives, includung redirects, have been fully explored. Dolovis (talk) 23:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: You're outright admitting that you didn't bother to make any sort of search for sources, for a BLP article yet, when you created it? That being said, playing in the top Swiss league has never been considered to meet criteria #1 or #2, and certainly does not now; there is nothing in Wikipedia policy or guideline allowing for "grandfathering" of an article that may be affected by tightening guidelines for notability. Ravenswing 00:51, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails NHOCKEY and GNG. None of the leagues are considered a top professional league according to WP:NHOCKEY/LA. Patken4 (talk) 21:22, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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