Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DOMENIC CRETARA

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:19, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

DOMENIC CRETARA[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, topic doesnt even indicate a proper background knowledge to fully understand whom the topic is. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 20:56, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 20:57, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep One of Cretara's works is in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum. His work has been featured in several (solo) museum shows. That makes him notable per WP:ARTIST. Mduvekot (talk) 22:15, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've fixed up the article a bit and added more references. The coverage is there and he does clearly meet the requirements of WP:ARTIST #4. Silver seren^C 04:52, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Although there are some citation errors noted (which should be simple to clear up), the article is about an important American artist, a leading representative of what has been termed "visionary representation." As director of the Frye Art Museum in Seattle, I had the pleasure of organizing a solo exhibition of Cretara's work over a decade ago and can attest to the quality and substance of his drawing and painting. More emphasis, however, could be given to the importance of his role as teacher at California State University, Long Beach where he has influenced and guided several generations of young artists. (Richard V. West, Director Emeritus, Frye Art Museum, Seattle) 174.24.143.233 (talk) 21:30, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Cretara has earned a national reputation as a painter and teacher, which is documented in the article. His work has been exhibited and collected by major art museums. Article needs clean-up, text refinement, and expansion, but includes enough information to affirm the artist's importance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxbeck (talk • contribs) 23:44, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've added a further reading section for an article on Cretara in a 1992 issue of American Artist. It's 30 pages all about him. I found the details of it from an EBSCO search, but it only had the details of the article and not the text. If anyone could find a copy of the text somewhere, perhaps a PDF, that would be really helpful. But it might be a bit difficult. American Artist went defunct in October of 2012 and was bought out and incorporated into The Artist's Magazine, so finding back issues of the original version might be complicated. But it's out there somewhere. Silver seren^C 19:58, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I can't even understand what the reason given for deletion is supposed to mean. I can only assume that it's a very clumsy attempt to say that there is not enough context to indicate what the subject of the article is about, but if that is what it is intended to mean then that is simply not true. Even the very poor stub which the article was at the time of the nomination told us what the author's name was, where he came from, what he was known for, and gave references which provided further information about him and his work. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:12, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.