Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/D.S. (song)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
D.S. (song)[edit]
The result was Keep. Nomination withdrawn Rodhullandemu 19:44, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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DELETE and REDIRECT: The song never appeared on a chart and didn't receive airplay. It has no music video and was not a single. The song is only notable because of it's reference to the district attorney. This is already covered in the Michael Jackson article and 1993 child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson article. It should be redirected to the HIStory album to stop recreation. — Realist2 15:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC) KEEP: I withdraw the nomination, there is enough well sourced info here to keep the article, it has good potential. — Realist2 19:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- REDIRECT Agree with nom, this is a non-notable song. lk (talk) 16:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, fails notability per WP:MUSIC#Songs. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 03:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment If the outcome is "delete without redirect", DS (disambiguation) needs to be updated. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 14:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Has coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject (I've just added another to the article) so meets WP:N. The collaboration with Slash is another claim to notability. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:39, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought I'd done enough to establish notability with my additions on the song's lyrical content and Sneddon's reaction to it, and that it was sung outside the courtroom by fans to attack Sneddon - I've added several references - but we'll see what others think. I don't know if the extra details of Jackson's strip search was really needed; as you say, it's repeating stuff from elsewhere and it's not directly relevent to this article. We could do with more on the song's recording, I agree. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the strip search is relevant because that was the point where Jackson snapped (wouldn't you?) and seriously began to strongly dislike the attorney. The song itself is quite menacing and bitter, from a musical perspective the reader needs to fully understand why Jackson was so pissed off. He was humiliated beyond belief, imagine being one of the most famous, powerful men on earth and having some stranger on $45,000 a year video tape you naked. If we take musical articles as a literal art form, the reader needs to understand, fully how the creator felt. — Realist2 15:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought I'd done enough to establish notability with my additions on the song's lyrical content and Sneddon's reaction to it, and that it was sung outside the courtroom by fans to attack Sneddon - I've added several references - but we'll see what others think. I don't know if the extra details of Jackson's strip search was really needed; as you say, it's repeating stuff from elsewhere and it's not directly relevent to this article. We could do with more on the song's recording, I agree. --Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.