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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of political parties in Wales. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:04, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cymru Sovereign[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a Gazetteer of Political Parties. There is no evidence of notability for Cymru Sovereign, and sources only prove the party exists, not that party is important, or has proven electoral success. Notability is not automatically awarded and this article has no features which validate claims of importance. doktorb wordsdeeds 11:06, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. doktorb wordsdeeds 11:06, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. doktorb wordsdeeds 11:06, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions. doktorb wordsdeeds 11:06, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as there's no "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources" - WP:ORGCRIT. I can't find any mentions other than in its own social media and lists of parties. It's registered as a party with the Electoral Commission but anyone can do that for £150. asnac (talk) 16:51, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep noted in Welsh here [1] and [2] and in English [3]. This page should be kept because the party has stood in Senedd Cymru elections but we're unsuccessful, this is something that many other political parties have done and are still noted on Wikipedia. This party is significant because it has a different view on Welsh Independence than most other parties that support Welsh Independence, EU Independence. With Welsh Independence coming out of the fringes these parties will have more support in new elections, and therefore pages should be kept, and improved. Cwmcafit (talk) 11:21, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ [1], Y Cymro.
  2. ^ [2], Golwg360.
  3. ^ [3], NationCymru.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amkgp 💬 04:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cwmcafit can you show significant coverage in independent reliable sources? Your 3rd source is an opinion piece, the 2nd doesn’t seem reliable either and not sure about the first. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, not notable. Further to the comment from ProcrastinatingReader, the first source definitely does not support notability. It is written by Gruff Meredith, the founder (and possibly sole member) of the party. SpinningSpark 01:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:24, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: there's no evidence of notability. If the party goes on to have success in the future, the page can be recreated. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Minor Party in Wales that has stood elections. Coverage in Golwg360 and NationCymru makes it notable in my opinion. Regional parties do not get much national coverage outside of those regions. Wales is a constituent nation of the UK and has it's own assembly and therefore its own national politics. I propose to @Cwmcafit: that this article be translated to Welsh, especially if the overall consensus is Delete. UaMaol (talk) 00:58, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: certainly I will be making a Welsh language page for this article. Cwmcafit (talk) 08:12, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep Golwg is absolutely a reliable source and should be treated as such. Y Cymro normally would be but as pointed out the article is written by the party leader in this case. The subject is also cited in independent pieces such as this piece on Medium. Cardiffbear88 (talk) 08:38, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DMySon 03:43, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect the party has participated in elections, so it should be redirected to the List of political parties in Wales. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:17, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can live with that redirect since the inclusion criterion of the list is all parties that have stood candidates, not notability, which this party assuredly does not have. SpinningSpark 15:54, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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