Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cui Liang (handballer)

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The result was keep‎. Nomination withdrawn, no support for Deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 02:40, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cui Liang (handballer)[edit]

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He competed at the 2008 Olympics and the Asian Games in 2002 and 2006 but didn't win a medal at any of these competitions. I didn't find sufficient sources through a WP:BEFORE search to pass WP:GNG. Possible redirect target could be Handball at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men's tournament. Suonii180 (talk) 23:12, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Withdrawn by nominator, sources have been added to the article which now passes WP:GNG. Suonii180 (talk) 20:29, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Olympics, and China. Suonii180 (talk) 23:12, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – I've expanded the article with sources that I think are enough to meet GNG. I suspect more sources could be found with a more thorough search – finding sources takes some work because the events he competed in were 15 or more years ago. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 03:05, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Mx. Granger's sources seem good on the whole, with the caveat of going through Google Translate. Given that the subject is an Olympian, and the sources provided cover far more than just that, I am quite confident GNG is met. —siroχo 05:43, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Handball-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 07:20, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:

    People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

    • If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
    Sources
    1. The sources Mx. Granger added to the article.
    2. Mei, Zi 玫子 (2005-10-10). "中国手球队闪亮之星:崔亮 穿针引线的能手" [The shining star of the Chinese handball team: Cui Liang, a master of needles and threads] (in Chinese). Sina Corporation. Archived from the original on 2023-08-06. Retrieved 2023-08-06.

      The article notes: "崔亮是优秀的底线球手,他的优秀源于他的天赋和勤奋。在哥哥崔磊的推荐下,14岁的崔亮结束了篮球生涯跨入了手球界,与哥哥一起在海军男子手球队并肩作战。 ... 进队的第一天崔亮就暗下决心,要进一线,要力争进入国家队。无论其他队员已叫苦连天、瘫坐不起,崔亮还始终按照教练部署继续训练,从没喊过一声累,还经常在下课后自己进行加练。一年后,崔亮终于实现了第一个梦想——进入一队,1999年16岁的崔亮实现第二个愿望——进入国家队。从那之后,中国手球界出现了一颗闪亮之星。"

      From Google Translate: "Cui Liang is an excellent baseline player, his excellence stems from his talent and hard work. Under the recommendation of his elder brother Cui Lei, 14-year-old Cui Liang ended his basketball career and stepped into the handball world. He and his elder brother played side by side in the Navy men's handball team. ... On the first day of joining the team, Cui Liang secretly made up his mind to enter the first line and strive to enter the national team. No matter how the other team members complained and couldn't sit still, Cui Liang continued to train according to the coach's arrangement. He never cried out that he was tired, and he often did extra training by himself after class. A year later, Cui Liang finally realized his first dream - entering the first team. In 1999, 16-year-old Cui Liang realized his second wish - entering the national team. Since then, a shining star has emerged in the Chinese handball world."

    3. Qian, Qing 钱擎 (2008-07-30). Wang, Yanan 王雅南 (ed.). "蒋家姐妹欲在水立方创历史 崔家兄弟奥运处子秀" [The Jiang sisters want to make history in the Water Cube, and the Cui brothers make their Olympic debut] (in Chinese). Shenzhen Press Group [zh]. Archived from the original on 2023-08-06. Retrieved 2023-08-06 – via Sohu.

      The article notes: "崔磊、崔亮既是一对亲兄弟,也是国家男子手球队的主力,弟弟崔亮是队长,哥哥崔磊是左内锋。手球场上,手是最重要的武器,两兄弟挽手并肩,是这个赛场最闪耀的双子星。... 两兄弟曾就读于山西体育职业学院,... 而弟弟崔亮,本来是一名篮球运动员,他是在哥哥的推荐下“转行”的,拥有出色身体条件的他,很快就成了国家队的核心,不仅有一般中区队员的攻防技术,还具备了良好的底线个人技术。"

      From Google Translate: "Cui Lei and Cui Liang are not only a pair of brothers, but also the main force of the national men's handball team. The younger brother Cui Liang is the captain, and the older brother Cui Lei is the left inside forward. On the handball court, hands are the most important weapon, and the two brothers arm in arm, are the most shining twin stars in the field. ... The two brothers had studied at Shanxi Sports Vocational College, ... and the younger brother Cui Liang, who was originally a basketball player, "changed careers" on the recommendation of his elder brother. Has become the core of the national team, not only has the offensive and defensive skills of ordinary central players, but also has good bottom-line personal skills."

    4. Qu, Beilin 曲北林 (2001-12-22). "八一男子手球队 来港参加国际赛" [Bayi Men's Handball Team Comes to Hong Kong to Participate in International Competition]. Va Kio Daily (in Chinese). Xinhua News Agency.

      The article notes: "在八一队里,崔磊和崔亮是兄弟俩。崔亮还是全运会的最佳男子手球选手。他们两个身高差不多,一个一米九六,一个一米九五;体重也差不多,一个八十公斤,一个八十三公斤。"

      From Google Translate: "In the Bayi team, Cui Lei and Cui Liang are brothers. Cui Liang was also the best male handball player in the National Games. The two of them are about the same height, one is 1.96 meters and the other is 1.95 meters; the weight is also about the same, one is 80 kilograms and the other is 83 kilograms."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Cui Liang (Chinese: 崔亮; pinyin: Cuī Liàng) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 05:44, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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