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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. -- Cirt (talk) 00:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cuba – Peru relations[edit]

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Unreferenced permastub bilateral relations article which contains no information other than embassy locations. Stifle (talk) 11:48, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep. I don't like it, but there appears to be some prospect of improvement. Some searching gave me two sources: [1] and [2]. Significant coverage in at least two reliable sources spanning 45 years means this is probably notable, although it's going to need a lot of work. Alzarian16 (talk) 12:15, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The prod should have been left to stand, there is no notability asserted by this relation. Having embassies or signing a few trade agreements are routine, not notable. Tarc (talk) 14:09, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • What about threatening to break off relations altogether ([3]) or recalling the envoy because of a comment by the country's leader ([4])? I wouldn't describe either of those as routine. Alzarian16 (talk) 14:11, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • The problem there is that you're treading on WP:SYNTHESIS grounds but just dropping examples of things they have done. IMO for this sort of article to be notable there has to be reliable sources that actually discuss the Cuban-Peruvian relation itself. Tarc (talk) 14:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I can see your point about the second link I provided, although the first to me is more about the relationship itself at a particular point in time. A bit more searching gave me this, which I missed first time round. Hopefully it goes some way to addressing the problem you identified. Alzarian16 (talk) 15:13, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Here we go again... Carrite (talk) 15:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep under the rule that notability does not expire. Notwithstanding that this looks a lot like the Groubani incident where tons of Nation X-Nation Y articles were created, there's actually quite a history in Cuba-Peru relations. The article's creator probably wasn't even born when this happened, the Mariel boatlift of 1980 began when a group of defectors rammed the gates of the Peruvian embassy in Cuba, and then thousands of people crowded inside the compound. This doesn't have to be a "permastub". Mandsford 18:10, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cuba-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Peru-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and improve, yeah, right now it's weak, but both nations are powers in their spheres in Latin America, and most times the last 50 years, in opposition. Not going anywhere. Many notables start off as bad stubs, created a few myself, in a search for others with more than I knew.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:11, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep I agree with Alzarian16 that this article needs a lot of work. Alzarian16 mentions two reliable sources, which are available for other editors to work with. Perhaps more articles are available in Spanish. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:41, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: The article under discussion here has been flagged for {{rescue}} by the Article Rescue Squadron. SnottyWong comment 04:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep based on what others have found. They'd gotten coverage for events between the two nations. Dream Focus 04:17, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Has lot of potential to expand. Shyamsunder (talk) 11:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep per above and as a tastefull Groubani style map has been added. FeydHuxtable (talk) 20:33, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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