Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cruel Melody
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 13:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Cruel Melody[edit]
Article about a future album which has no set release date at this time. fuzzy510 08:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep major label albums from bands with highly notable members. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 11:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. A major-label album from a band with highly notable members? Yes. A NON-EXISTENT major-label album from a band with somewhat notable members? Not so much. --Calton | Talk 11:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- You seem to misunderstand. Wes Borland is the highly notable former guitarist of unfortunate rap-rock band Limp Bizkit. Danny Lohner is a highly notable member of Nine Inch Nails. Josh Freese of the highly notable A Perfect Circle is involved, too. This is the closest you're likely to get to an alternative rock supergroup. "Not out yet" doesn't mean nonexistent, or you may as well go after Chinese Democracy next. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 17:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- "Not out yet" doesn't mean nonexistent If you sincerely believe this, it's proof you are in dire need of a basic dictionary. And the less said about your bizarre analogy, the better, though. --Calton | Talk 02:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- "Nonexistent" =! "not commerically available," your continued incivility aside. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 02:19, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- As far as the closest to an alternative rock supergroup is concerned, I believe Audioslave fits that bill fairly well. In any case, Chinese Democracy and this album are completely different animals. The former has tons of information available about it, so much so that it's justifiable to give it its own article. That's not the case with this one. Once it does, then it can get moved out. --fuzzy510 19:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, true on Audioslave at least, but the logic behind your deletion rationale can be put the same way. I'd disagree with deleting Chinese Democracy, too. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 22:07, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- "Not out yet" doesn't mean nonexistent If you sincerely believe this, it's proof you are in dire need of a basic dictionary. And the less said about your bizarre analogy, the better, though. --Calton | Talk 02:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- You seem to misunderstand. Wes Borland is the highly notable former guitarist of unfortunate rap-rock band Limp Bizkit. Danny Lohner is a highly notable member of Nine Inch Nails. Josh Freese of the highly notable A Perfect Circle is involved, too. This is the closest you're likely to get to an alternative rock supergroup. "Not out yet" doesn't mean nonexistent, or you may as well go after Chinese Democracy next. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 17:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This article isn't speculation about a future album. There are external sources reporting on the album's impending release. Of course, it would be nice if the article cited one of these sources until the album was actually released. ScottW 23:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Black Light Burns until a definite release date is announced, then recreate. B.Wind 02:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep There is a good bit of info on it, and the band itself has been formed of notable members. There is information that is varifiable, and it is notable, does it really matter if there is no set release date? J Milburn 09:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It does matter, for Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. If a release is imminent, the label usually fixes the date months in advance. No release date means that it's speculation at best. B.Wind 06:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- On the Black Light Burns blog on MySpace, Borland has said the album is definitely coming out, but due to corporate restructure at Geffen no date has been announced. Also, Keep. - Nova Prime 08:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- That wouldn't be the first time that an album has been said to be "definitely coming out". Ask Guns 'N' Roses about that one. --fuzzy510 23:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Ha. FWIW, tracking is complete and it's been mixed by Tom Lord-Alge. It is coming out. - Nova Prime 11:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- That wouldn't be the first time that an album has been said to be "definitely coming out". Ask Guns 'N' Roses about that one. --fuzzy510 23:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- On the Black Light Burns blog on MySpace, Borland has said the album is definitely coming out, but due to corporate restructure at Geffen no date has been announced. Also, Keep. - Nova Prime 08:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- It does matter, for Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. If a release is imminent, the label usually fixes the date months in advance. No release date means that it's speculation at best. B.Wind 06:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Stifle (talk) 12:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, Just because you can not buy it, does not mean people dont want to know about it.. Tapeworm (band) anyone??? Penner 23:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.