Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Courtney Cummz (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against renomination. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 15:23, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Courtney Cummz[edit]

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A BLP that lacks sources that discuss the subject directly and in detail. Significant RS coverage not found. The article is cited to online directories, industry publicity materials, and other sources otherwise not suitable for notability. Does not meet WP:PORNBIO / WP:ENT. No significant awards or notable contributions to the genre. Mainstream appearances are very minor. First AfD closed as "keep" in 2006. PORNBIO has been significantly tightened since then so it's a good time to revisit. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:49, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as no evidence of notability, Hasn't won any significant/notable awards, Fails PORNBIO & GNG. –Davey2010^Talk 20:43, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Adam Film World Female Performer of the Year Award meets #1 WP:PORNBIO.Guilherme Burn (talk) 18:47, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets #1 WP:PORNBIO in Adam Film World award for Female Performer of the Year. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:23, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, Adam Film World award does not meet WP:PORNBIO. There's not even a page for Adam Film World Guide Award; what's listed in the article is piped to the guide itself. In any case, WP:SIGCOV is lacking for the subject and has not been presented at this AfD. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Additional non-porn media sources can be found at The Daily Beast:[1][2][3] and Cosmo: [4].

There is also this from the The Tampa Tribune, a newpaper with 12 Pulitzer Prizes for journalism.[5]. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 03:52, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The subject's award definitely fails the well=known/significant standard of PORNBIO, by practice and consensus. It is not even notable. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 03:26, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nom's comment: the sources offered above are insufficient for notability. Daily Beast is a soundbite, as in:

Performer Courtney Cummz echoes Starr. “AIM should let us know who is impacted, because we could have shot content with them and they forgot to add to the list,” she says. “Or they could be one of my friends’ booty calls. You just don’t know.”

Cosmopolitan is an interview; while Tampa Bay is a WP:SPIP promo piece. This type of coverage does not fly for academics, businesspeople, doctors, etc. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:22, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Coffeeandcrumbs. -- Gprscrippers (talk) 16:58, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No notable Ghits, and I'm not even sure the award mentioned in this discussion even exists. It isn't WP:HOAX worthy, but it's definitely not gonna pass WP:PORNBIO. Kirbanzo (talk) 01:35, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meets of WP:PORNBIO. Subtropical-man (talk / en-2) 10:02, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The subject clearly fails PORNBIO; the claimed award is neither well-known nor significant; as correctly noted above, the award itself is non-notable, given by a non-notable spinoff of a marginally notable porn magazine (and, as I recall, there isn't even a real award or award show, just a listing in the spinoff magazine. Virtually all the coverage amounts to no more than namedrops or soundbites; while the Tampa Tribune article is superficially plausible as an RS, actually includes virtually no verifiable information about her beyond stage name and a few credits; her self-sourced claim of a "six-figure" is about as credible as an after-midnight cable infomercial, and she's huckstering to get people to drop $4000 to learn how to make porn films. Virtually all the article references are nonindependent or promotional. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. (talk) 21:42, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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