Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Confederation of sultanates in Lanao

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:58, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Confederation of sultanates in Lanao[edit]

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Article is largely a original research. The 16 royal houses of Lanao is not a hoax and continues to exist as non-sovereign monarchies but the more comprehensive information here are unsourced. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 21:05, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Royalty and nobility, and Islam. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 21:05, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:02, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- There is a Muslim insurgency in part of Mindanao: is this related to that? The problem with this article is that it is unsourced, so that we cannot tell if it is verifiable. A lack of references is not a ground for deletion. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:38, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per notability concerns, all I find about this confederation are wiki mirrors. However, there seems to be a 17th Lanao Sultanate (note not plural) according to this paper which are separated into the 4 principalities (Pangampong). I think it's better to make an article about these principalities as supported by verifiable sources than this original research. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:45, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I wonder if part of the problem is with the article name. The "Lanao Sultanate" is something that does appear in papers. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Iskandar323. Definitely. To put this in perspective, I'll offer an analogy. Think of the name Four Principalities or the native name Pangampong as the United States of America. Now this article's name can be called "Confederacy of Counties of America". That's why is ridiculous and original research. --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:13, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Peterkingiron, the Sultanate of Lanao (not this confederacy) predates even the Muslim insurgency as they are already fighting the Spanish by before the Philippines even existed. The modern rebellion you are talking about started with the 1968 Jabidah massacre.--Lenticel ^(talk) 09:56, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I purposely only commented not voted, as I lack the detailed knowledge to make as judgment. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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