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The result was redirect to Complete Vocal Institute#Complete Vocal Technique.  Sandstein  10:33, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Queried speedy delete as advertisement. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:55, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 05:05, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 05:05, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Suggestions for changes to meet WP standards on non-advertisement rather than deletion:

  • Change introduction to reflect relevant aspects of the techniques more so than the development of the technique by the founding author, which can instead be developed into a 'History of CVT' section on its own
  • Reference the peer-reviewed articles from the academic journal JVOICE (Journal of Voice) where several articles have been published on Complete Vocal Technique, some by the owner of CVT, and some by non-affiliated researchers from other universities around the world (see an example here: [1] and another here [2] and another one here [3]
  • Reference the abundance of internationally acclaimed conferences in which CVT is being presented and discussed by non-CVI affiliated researchers and vocal coaches [4]
  • Change references to the educations in CVT into is own section with references to multiple companies offering such courses in various countries of the world
  • Reference the number of thesis work done by PhD students around the world. See for instance [5] as an example from the University of Vienna of Classical Singing.
  • Since CVT has become the largest agreed-upon method of vocal teaching in the world (at least comparing the amount of teachers of CVT to the amount of teachers from other methods such as Estill (EVT), Speech-Level singing (SLS), etc.) and should be represented on Wikipedia. Currently CVT accounts for 390 Authorised CVT Teachers [6] from 41 countries as compared to 240 from EVT with varying levels of method proficiency [7], and 21 from SLS with varying levels of method proficiency [8]

@Anthony Appleyard I only see one section in which you marked the CVT page as advertisement, which was the first section mentioning the founder of the technique. If this was written from a neutral point of view pr. WP guidelines §2.1.11 and placed as a section on the 'History of CVT', would this warrant not deleting the page? MathiasAaenThuesen (talk) 05:56, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.jvoice.org/article/S0892-1997(16)30218-1/fulltext
  2. ^ http://www.jvoice.org/article/S0892-1997(16)30414-3/pdf
  3. ^ http://www.jvoice.org/article/S0892-1997(16)30509-4/pdf
  4. ^ http://cvtresearch.com/conferences/
  5. ^ http://othes.univie.ac.at/26150/
  6. ^ https://completevocal.institute/find-a-teacher/
  7. ^ https://www.estillvoice.com/instructors/search/page:12
  8. ^ https://teachers.speechlevelsinging.com/index.php/directory_search/az_users/
  • At 01:10, 6 March 2017‎ User:69.165.196.103 tagged it as {{db-advert}}. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:31, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as advertisement in its current state. Query to MathiasAaenThuesen: Are you connected with the institute? If you have a conflict of interest, it should be declared sooner rather than later. --Finngall talk 18:33, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Answer to Finngall: Thanks for reaching out on a talk, very helpful! I am a PhD student conducting a research project on CVT/CVI and a co-author on some of the recent published academic articles on the techniques. If possible, I am happy to receive the original text, correct/edit it, and send it to an editor for proof-reading (and check for neutral tone). MathiasAaenThuesen (talk) 18:41, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- unsourced original research. Wikipedia already has an article on Complete Vocal Institute; there's no need for two articles on these closely related topics. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:02, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  09:02, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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