Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Classical music in Star Trek

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sr 13 08:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Classical music in Star Trek[edit]

Delete - A colletion of loosely associated items. The listed pieces have nothing in common other than happening to have been used in an episode of a TV series. The pieces do not gain notability from the use and the episodes don't gain notability for using them. Similar song lists have been deleted for a number of different shows, including Scrubs, both versions of The Office, Freaks and Geeks and others. Otto4711 12:54, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, Star Trek is not known for its use of classical music, and I can't immediately recall any single episode in TOS, TNG, or VOY whose plot revolved around a piece of music. Can't say for the other series, but I find it unlikely there. In short, it's not notable and therefore trivial. WP:NOT. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 14:35, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Side comment: There was that one episode where Troi goes crazy from hearing the same music box melody over and over. (But this is irrelevant to the discussion at hand--just wanted to geek out a little.) --Fang Aili ^talk 14:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Side comment of my own - I'd forgotten about the Doctor's love for opera in VOY. That did play some part in a few plot lines, but relatively minor, and it can be mentioned in individual episode articles on a dedicated Wiki, as suggested below by Fang Aili. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 14:49, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, painfully loose association. --Eyrian 14:39, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, you have to admit some time was put into the article. However is it noteworthy? Probally not. --Kuzwa 14:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I get a big kick out of this article, being both a Star Trek fan and a musician, but it is something better placed at Memory Alpha, or elsewhere. Is there a GFDL wiki that can take this? (Memory Alpha is not GFDL.) --Fang Aili ^talk 14:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Memory Alpha already has a similar series of articles, one for each composer whose work was used. Index is here. For future reference, Memory Beta is GFDL licensed, so is a potential destination for trek-related moves, although I believe they only want non-canon related information, so this article wouldn't fit there. JulesH 14:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Wikipedia is not a directory (of music used in Star Trek) Corpx 15:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this list does not help understanding of Star Trek or classical music. A brief mention in Star Trek that classical music is sometimes used will do, and also in the Doctor's article that his love of opera is sometimes used as a plot device, are all that is needed (and indeed all that is interesting). Totnesmartin 17:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. Oh my. Burntsauce 17:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I'm a a fan of Star Trek (and the first one to call me a trekkie gets a fingerwagging) but this doesn't merit an article. -WarthogDemon 22:05, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Glad I've saved a copy to my desktop. If someone happens to come looking for this, finds the AfD and wants the info., let me know. --EEMeltonIV 02:59, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - EEMeltonIV, there are a few admins who will retrieve deleted articles for you if you ask them. This page should be helpful. Totnesmartin 07:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This article is very well organized and researched, and worth putting to a website for "Trekkies" like me.. or WarthogDemon (I'm a fan, and, like Wart, not that much of a fan). Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to preserve classical music references for researchers? I consider it to be important, particularly to offset the dumbed-down portion of Wikipedia. Unlike pop songs whose title can be inferred from the lyrics, you can't identify, say, "Haydn's String Quartet No. 5 in D major, Opus 64, from The Lark". The answer doesn't appear to be an article like "Haydn in popular culture", since so many of these get deleted. This list could probably qualify for incorporation into a category, more easily found by a "Trekkie", rather than being in a separate article. Mandsford 15:11, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So, you are suggesting a list of every time a piece of classical music has been played? Sure, that might be useful to somebody, but that's not what an encyclopedia is about. --Eyrian 15:34, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

No, not really that. In this case, the list is about what music was used in a particular series, so people can identify the piece that way. I'm just saying that there should be some way for people to have a common frame of reference for describing a particular composition. Rossini and "The Lone Ranger" is the classic example. Mandsford 01:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.