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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Eluchil404 (talk) 02:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clare Barry[edit]

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Currently a mix of unsourced crystal ballery and minor flirtations with the edge of almost being notable. It's possible that some sourcing will show she is notable; more likely that she is not yet notable - and maybe never will be. Happy to be persuaded either way. Dweller (talk) 22:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

working on sourcing, just not very good with using wikipedia yet, feel free to delete it- i'm merely attempting to become someone who can use wikipedia at present — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greencordial (talk • contribs) 22:18, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no edits prior. Dlohcierekim 15:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that 1) Anything on the Edinburgh fringe these days is 99.9% likely to be non-notable as a matter of course, and 2) that given the birth date, it is possible if not likely that this is a different Clare Barry. Brilliantine (talk) 15:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, lifebaka++ 13:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Any coverage found at all in the references is even less than trivial. Some of the sources are worthless in any case. Appears to be WP:VANITYWP:COI to me, as I can find no non-trivial coverage. Even I am more notable than this... Brilliantine (talk) 14:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Minor actor, yes, but she has references on IMDB, which is good enough for me.Wikigonish (talk) 15:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone can get on IMDB. Appearing as an extra or a walk-on in a soap is in no way notable. IMDB is not substantial coverage in any case, and this person fails WP:ENTERTAINER in every way. This seems to possibly be motivated by vanity. Brilliantine (talk) 15:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above reasoning. Details after I have lunch. Having a reference on IMDB is not notability. Dlohcierekim 15:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
IMDB shows non-significant roles. Minor parts do not meet Wikipedia:ENTERTAINER. The "small television roles" are too small to meet notability. Filmography does not list roles meeting notability. TV appearances do not.
Being published is not sufficient to encyclopedic notability. Amazon listing for the book collaboration referenced in the article says, "Gray-Haired Grins & Giggles: Guess What - Grammy & Grandy Have a Sense of Humor, Too! by Susie Abrams, Bet Ancrum, Clare Barry, and Margaret Bates (Paperback - Oct 1995)". This is quite remarkable. If she was born in 1991, she was four when undertaking this endeavor. This is apparently a collection of funny stories from people of, shall we say, significant maturity. "Grins and Giggles" does appear in a wide range of libraries, but even if she managed to contribute at age 4, this would not be enough. Worldcat lists one book by a Clare Barry. It is a dissertation published 12 years before she was born.
Orlando weekly does not show significant role. Youtube is not a verifiable, reliable source. One source is just a Yahoo search page. One source makes no mention of the subject.
A review of Google hits finds a researcher for BBC, a review for a butcher, and a North Carolina Episcopalian deacon. The butcher and the deacon appear to have more significant coverage. Clare Barry +actor does not reveal significant coverage on the web. no helpful google news hits for clare barry +actor or +actress. Dlohcierekim 16:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete - It just doesn't quite meet the gut check. I can't imagine that the role of "clerk" was very big. --Evb-wiki (talk) 19:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Of marginal notability, but barely passes WP:BIO. And how come Dlohcierekim didn't ask any of us to join him ;for lunch? :) Ecoleetage (talk) 19:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Passes WP:BIO how exactly, may I enquire? Brilliantine (talk) 22:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC) After doing more research, I fail to see how anyone at all could credibly vote keep. The theatre actress mentioned in the Orlando Weekly is certainly a different person. Brilliantine (talk) 00:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete no reliable third-party published sources as required by wp:v. potentially the channel 4 one is but the site is down right now, even so it requires multiple sources. Jessi1989 (talk) 00:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The channel 4 one provides nothing useful. I have done my own check on the cast and crew for the made-for-tv film in question and no-one of this name appears. Brilliantine (talk) 00:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for failing verifiability. It looks to me like there references provided aren't event he same Clare Barry. Born in 1991 and winning best nude performance at the Fringe in 1997? Co-authoring a book at age 4? The IMDB roles show a role of "clerk" which fails WP:ENTERTAINER by a long mile. But the key issue is failing verifiability. -- Whpq (talk) 17:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as the article currently lacks reliable sources to verify the facts and establish notibility as per policy. Wiw8 (talk) 22:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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