Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/City attorney

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy keep. (non-admin closure) Scorpions13256 (talk) 15:41, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

City attorney[edit]

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The article has been unsourced since Feb 2007. After 15 years, I think a deletion discussion is appropriate. Coin945 (talk) 08:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:55, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:55, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep, the nominator does not propose a valid WP:DEL-REASON. The nominator does not say which notability guideline this article fails to meet. SailingInABathTub (talk) 10:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep What in the ever loving million hells of Jainism is this? How is the position of City Attorney not notable? If anything, this article is important as people often confuse a city attorney with a state's attorney or district attorney, all are different offices with different responsibilities, and so this provides useful information. It may be true that an individual city attorney might not be notable, but the position itself is notable, just as a small-town mayor may not be notable, but we have an article on the position of mayor itself. Hyperion35 (talk) 18:01, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete essentially a dictionary definition. Does not consider the broad historical issues, nor does it take a worldwide perspective. Beyond this the article is unsourced. We need to end all unsourced articles immediately. We are not a dictionary, and our scope is neither limited to the English language or to the US. Nor should an article like this limit itself almost to use of the term. There may be a notable subject here, but this article is so full of problems and definciencies it needs to be destroyed under TNT grounds if nothing else. Note also that those advocating for keeping the article deal neither with the dictionary definition problem, nor do they volunteer that ther office is notable by showing any sources that discuss the office as a concept and show that it is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- So, first off, it may help to have some background in knowing that this was one of 70+ AfDs that this editor nominated today over a short period of time with the same boilerplate explanation.
  To answer your question, we have articles on other municipal positions like mayor and city manager. It is true that this article is not as thorough as those, it could certainly be improved. But a city attorney is a basic municipal office. I'm not even sure how to answer your assertion, do I need to explain why we have pages for offices like mayor and city manager? Further, I did explain above that this is useful and encyclopedic information to have, as this position is often confused with state's attorneys and district attorneys, who are also local government attorneys who handle different duties. See also Local government in the United States for further information. Hyperion35 (talk) 19:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep You went right to deletion instead of trying to find sources and expanding it. WP:SOFIXIT. You have time to delete, you have time to expand. Nate • (chatter) 19:01, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep As I say this needs to be better sourced, more in depth, and cover the concept not the word. We have started that way, but have a long way to go.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:49, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.