Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Pumroy

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The result was delete. –MuZemike 06:22, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Pumroy[edit]

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Non-notable per WP:BIO and WP:ONEEVENT, no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources, apart from two stories by one journalist in the local press on his fundraising bike ride. Prod contested by creator. Top Jim (talk) 05:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. —Top Jim (talk) 06:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I am sure that this gentleman is a wonderful and well meaning person. However, the notability claimed is for participation in a single fundraiser. The two references were written by the same journalist, before and after the event. We need multiple references from independent reliable sources, and we need more more of a claim of notability than participation in a single fundraising event. Cullen328 (talk) 06:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom and previous argument. --Triwbe (talk) 18:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do not delete, Triwbe I am a mother of a child that has leukimia and is being treated at Kadlec Hospital in Richland, Washington. I did not know Chris Pumroy until he literally came out of nowhere and began fundraising for children with cancer, accepting no money for his actions, not one cent. All fundraising was paid for by him in full. Although the article says he raised $23000, the total now is closer to $60000. I cant begin to explain what this act of generosity feels like, and what it has personally done for children fighting for thier lives, as my daughter is now. This is a grass-roots community movement that has gained much momentum and will continue to grow. Chris is currently planning other fundraising events, again, out of the kindness of his heart. He is also an Iraq Combat Veteran and was wounded in Iraq. He is a disabled veteran. I unequovically understand the Wikipedia guidlines, and I believe that this article falls well within those guidlines. If Chris Pumroy is not a notable person, then certainly, no one on Wikipedia is. How many people are on here for far less impacting actions for the good of humanity? This man is a hero to many. He gives us hope to continue this painful journey. I pray that you will see this. You were the first person to attack my original article attempt. Perhaps this Wikipedia watchdog act is a hobby? I am begging you please, exercise special care and interest when you consider the deletion of this article. Im not sure that Chris Pumroy even knows that this is going on right now. And frankley, he probably dosent care if he is on Wikipedia. He is not that type of person. On the contrary, he is the most selfless person I have ever met. Put yourself in my shoes and ask yourself again if he is notable? Ask if he meets Wikipedia standards? Ask yourself if allowing this article to stay would degrade the integrity of this site one with millions of articles? If your a parent you will feel my pain and understand my frustration concerning this proposed deletion. I cant understand this. Please confirm his sources which are from a reputable mainstream media firm. Although one journalist wrote them, he has a website with video feeds concerning his efforts. He is on another well known web site as well. He is a hero in our community and an angel to people like me. I am pleading with all of you please reconsider your stance on this issue. Understand where I am coming from. Think about all of the children this selfless person is helping. If he was a child molester with articles from many sources would he be on here? Would that make him notable? I imagine it would. It sickens me that his efforts are not worthy in your opinion and your so quick to say delete. Please reconsider. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Sorry for not signing, my apologizes (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:47, 10 November 2010 (UTC). sorry again, Im trying! talk (talk) (Calimonster (talk) 12:50, 10 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Comment Calimonster, you say that you understand Wikipedia policies, but you seem to be arguing that we should ignore the requirement for multiple, independent, reliable sources in this case. What other Wikipedia policies support your viewpoint here? You should read the policy called arguments to avoid in deletion discussions because it seems that you are begging for mercy because you like the article very much and consider it a very useful article to have. None of these are valid reasons to keep an article in Wikipedia.

My "hobby" isn't deleting articles. If you look at my user page, I've created lots of articles, added to lots more, and in debates about deletion, I vote "keep" more often than "delete", when the articles comply with standards.

You've told us about you personal situation, so let me mention mine. I have a deaf wife and a son with developmental disabilities. I have participated in the American Cancer Society's Relay for Life for seven years, as a significant sponsor of the event in my hometown for the past five years. I don't have a Wikipedia article and don't expect one anytime soon. I met a guy through the Relay for Life who walks 24 hours straight for the event each year, and raises lots of money. He was just elected to our city council. There's no Wikipedia article about him because mayors are usually considered notable but city council members aren't.

Whether there's an article on Wikipedia is not in any way a judgment as to a person's worth. We have a lengthy article on Adolf Hitler but very few articles on the saintly people who spend decades volunteering in soup kitchens, but aren't usually covered in multiple, independent, reliable sources. Perhaps you should consider whether you have an emotional conflict of interest here, and whether you can write about this gentleman from a neutral point of view. Warm regards. Cullen328 (talk) 15:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for lack of significant outside coverage. It's great that he is doing all this good stuff, but he hasn't achieved notability for it. --MelanieN (talk) 04:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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