Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Baldo

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Baldo[edit]

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Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:NMUSIC 4meter4 (talk) 01:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:28, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Luxembourg-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:28, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - A minor figure who spent most of his life as an ordinary citizen. A Google Books search shows his name in several different histories of the Eurovision contest, but he is only ever listed very briefly as present in 1968 with no additional commentary. I can find no confirmation that he hosted the radio show (Les Nocturnes); I'm sure he was a host but that's just a job that lots of people do. Nowhere close to the requirements at WP:NBIO. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:49, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As the creator of this article, all artists which have represented a country in the Eurovision Song Contest are notable enough to entitle themselves to a Wikipedia article, for the reach of the competition. Additional secondary sources can be added to expand the article in question. To respond to the previous user, he was not a radio host of the competition, he was an active participant of the show. Under WP:NMUSIC, Chris Baldo follows criteria 2 and 10, with 10 being for the Eurovision Song Contest. Furthermore, the current state of an article has no bearing on notability, with the Luxembourgish language version of the article going more in-depth to Baldo's relevance in Luxembourg. Additional coverage likely exists, but may not be readily available online. A Luxembourgish individual or a Eurovision fan should be able to find sources more pertinent.--Lucky102 (talk) 07:05, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well then at least the chart information should be on the article then. WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 10:28, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The final sentence of the article says "He also hosted the RTL show Les Nocturnes". That is the unconfirmed radio hosting job mentioned in my vote. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:04, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with that interpretation of WP:NMUSIC and that merely participating in Eurovision makes a contestant automatically notable. We don’t have articles on every contestant on American Idol or The Voice, and Eurovision is a similar platform in terms of audience reach. Our policies at NMUSIC specifically address contests in criteria 9 (which is the most pertinent criteria for Eurovision contestants), requiring subjects to win or place 2nd or 3rd in the contest in order to be notable. Merely performing a song or two on television isn’t enough, and criteria 10 specifically advises that the performer be listed on the television show page over having a stand alone article in such cases. Further, I don’t see any evidence of the artist placing on a chart. Provide sources if you are going to make that claim.4meter4 (talk) 15:18, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I added a few sources from Billboard, but they are both trivial mentions that confirm the Eurovision contest. Discogs has a good list of the albums and 45s that he has released. Wider searches show no mention of his work in depth or of the Nocturnes show. --- Possibly ☎ 17:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Performing at Eurovision is notable but if a person's career before and after fails to retain that notability then we have to consider the wider picture. He appears to be a rather ordinary person who fails our policies on musicians and personalities, despite the one significant highlight. doktorb _words^deeds 05:40, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article can be expanded to improve notability.Wp27 (talk) 10:04, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is about the subject of the article, not about the article itself. Also, this article has been around for years. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 10:45, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B E C K Y S A Y L E S 14:19, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, does not meet WP:NMUSIC with an 11th place at Eurovision, and there is so little coverage otherwise. LizardJr8 (talk)

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