Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris 'TEK' O'Ryan

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 03:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Chris 'TEK' O'Ryan[edit]

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This smells like a violation of WP:PROMO and WP:AUTO. The creator and main contributor, User:BrittyGirl, is a single-purpose account, probably the article's subject himself. Anyway, I don't see how this meets WP:ARTIST. bender235 (talk) 12:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Winning a major award in your industry -- an Academy Award, a Grammy, the Turner Prize, etc. -- tends to grant notability, as such awards are widely publicised, and those they are awarded to tend to be well-known in their business, and thus will have coverage in their industry's publications. However, I'm finding it difficult to find any third-party reliable source coverage beyond the mere fact of the award. Can anyone else help dig out a cite, perhaps to an industry publication? -- The Anome (talk) 15:22, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question is, too, whether there actually is a source for him winning the award. A Google News search for this guy returns zero results. --bender235 (talk) 16:19, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete based on what I have found so far. The article claims that he was credited with winning a Grammy for Mary J. Blige's album Growing Pains. However, a search at Grammy.com (scroll down for "Past Winners Search") for the title "growing pains" indicates that the album won Best Contemporary R&B Album, but the credited winners were "Mary J. Blige, artist. Dave Pensado, Jaycen Joshua & Kuk Harrell, engineers." Since O'Ryan is not mentioned as one of the engineers credited for this award, this is a significant detriment to the claim of his notability. While the subject does appear to have worked on notable albums and for notable recording artists, his usual role as a recording engineer does not tend to put him in the public eye, nor has he received any significant media coverage about himself personally as far as I can find. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. Without a cite to back up the Grammy Award, or any other news coverage to establish notability per WP:BIO, I'm afraid this looks like a delete, unless someone can come up with a cite in the next week or so. -- The Anome (talk) 16:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The GRammy "win" was actually for a 2008 album. See [1]. He is not listed in the award credits. Not everyybody who works on an award winning album is considered to have won the award. -- Whpq (talk) 18:00, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I can't find any significant coverage, nor can I verify that the subject was credited for a Grammy for his work with Mary J. Blige. O'Ryan is listed as one of the Teenage Dream engineers on the official Grammy site (see Category 2, "Album of the Year"), and the description under the heading makes it seem like he would get an award if the album wins in a couple weeks. Anyway, that's all I could come up with. Gongshow ^Talk 02:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 09:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This reads like a resumé, complete with the 8x10 glossy. There are millions of sound engineers and producers out there without Wiki articles. The person is not notable from an encyclopedic standpoint. -- Cactusjump (talk) 20:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

but the question is which of these millions do merit a Wikipedia article. some will, but how to we tell, given that their contribution is not as prominently publicized as the artists themselves?. To what extent can we go by their work on a notable project where their contributions, though not as important as the prize-winning artist, were obviously essential?. I'm asking these as questions, because I don't claim to know the answers. DGG ( talk ) 04:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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