Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlotte Francis

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:10, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Charlotte Francis[edit]

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I don't see any evidence of this individual meeting WP:ENTERTAINER or the broader WP:N guidelines. The references on the page provide primarily trivial coverage of the subject, and none appear to indicate the kind of sustained coverage in independent, reliable, third-party sources that would satisfy WP:N. I undertook a good-faith effort to locate more substantial sources on the subject, but could not. Canadian Paul 14:58, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete one significant role is not enough to establish notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:12, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Her stage name was Jean Jay and she had plenty of credits under that name. See the British Film Institute. Andrew D. (talk) 16:23, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Davidson: Are you sure? Birth date in BFI differs by 6 years from that in article. PamD 11:06, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Discuss 16:53, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Discuss 16:53, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: her play Western Wind was performed in the West End, and the fact that she is listed there under a different spelling ("Frances") suggests that more research will find even more information. PamD 11:04, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: in agreement with PamD's comment. Xenxax (talk) 14:25, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As noted it is Jean Jay, her birth name was actually Charlotte Frances Jiggens. Are we using her stage name, this article or her real birth name (Frances with an e and Jiggens)? Szzuk (talk) 19:28, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok bit confused now, is it the same one...? Szzuk (talk) 19:36, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb is wrong, no surprise there. Her birth name was Charlotte Frances Jiggens, her Australian stage name was Charlotte Francis, her British stage name was Jean Jay. She is best known as Charlotte Francis from what I can gather. Szzuk (talk)

@Szzuk: I'm a bit confused as well... it seems that Jean Jay would probably pass WP:N, so I could probably withdraw in that case, but I must be missing where the proof is that Charlotte Francis and Jean Jay are the same person. Can someone make it really obvious to me? Canadian Paul 10:07, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I looked on ancestry.com to get her birth name and linked the different stage names to her husband via google, so there isn't a simple webpage I can direct you towards. Szzuk (talk) 10:55, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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