Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Centre for Sino-Christian Studies

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The result was merge to Hong Kong Baptist University. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 04:49, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Centre for Sino-Christian Studies[edit]

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A research centre/department established by the Hong Kong Baptist University which does not seem to pass WP:GNG or WP:ORG. All of the sources cited are primary sources (the website of HKBU or the centre itself), with a directory-like passing mention at the HK government website, with no significant mentions anywhere else based on my search. Also note WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, which provides that Faculties, departments [...] within a university, college, or school are generally not considered notable unless they have made significant contributions to their field. The "Major Publications" cited does not seem to qualify as "significant contributions in the field" of Sino-Christian studies. Dps04 (talk) 03:34, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Dps04 (talk) 03:34, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. Dps04 (talk) 03:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Either Keep or Merge with Hong Kong Baptist University. A purview of current literature on Sino-Christian theology mention researchers sponsored by this Centre which is stated to be a parallel institution with the Centre for Applied Ethics, but having a different objective. The Centre sponsors research and organizes key international events in the field of Sino-Christian studies. So, I would suggest a strong keep decision to editors. If not Keep, it should deserve, at least, a Merge but not delete. Solatido 05:19, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Solatido, Thanks for the vote, and let me start off by thanking you for your contributions as the creator of the nominated article.

As a research department under a university, my understanding is that the article on the Centre for Sino-Christian Studies ("Centre") is subject to the relevant notability guidelines, especially WP:ORG (See WP:NSCHOOL for more information). Would you care to provide a list of multiple reliable secondary sources with significant mentions of the Centre to show the subject meets the relevant notability requirements? I would be inclined to think mere mentions of researchers sponsored by the Centre in the academic literature wouldn't count as significant mentions for the purpose of WP:ORG or WP:GNG.

Also, you mentioned that the Centre "sponsors research and organizes key international events in the field of Sino-Christian studies.". Could you please state clearly what are the events you consider to be of such huge importance such that the Centre has also inherited notability through organisation of these events?

Of course, I am open to a merge option, but this is premised on the assumption that someone would undertake the duties in selectively merging the contents of the article to the HKBU article. -- Dps04 (talk) 16:29, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dps04, Thanks for the encouragement on my wiki edit! A quick search on Google books for mention of the Centre returns results related to researchers connected with it that I regard to be one evidence of its notability in the area of Sino-Christian studies. As the institution is regarded as an independent body similar to the Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies, but in the area of theological studies in Chinese context (e.g. Partner Institutions, York St. John University), I would think that it is notable in its own area of contribution. In case the majority here think that the centre itself doesn't deserve a page of its own, I would still believe that there should at least be a page on Sino-Christian study centres that would include reference to this centre and like institutions that are notable in the area of research. But, I would strongly suggest that this page deserves a Keep motion and "Sino-Christian Study Centres" or "Institutions" should rather be a category. Solatido 11:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have listed some events in the article. I also have seen a number of institutions announcing an upcoming major international conference on Rapid Religious and Cultural Change.Solatido 12:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Solatido, Thanks for the input. Unless I am missing something, there were only 4 or 5 books which even mentioned the subject per your Google Booksearch, none of which contained a significant mention or description of the institution itself. Again, it would be helpful if u could cite reliable secondary sources mentioning or at least implying how the Centre was notable in the area of Sino-Christian Studies. But I'll defer to others to evaluate the sources out there. Regardless of the outcome, thank you for your contributions on the wiki to date :) -- Dps04 (talk) 13:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bait30 ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 17:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect to Hong Kong Baptist University per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. I searched for sources about "Centre for Sino-Christian Studies" and could not find significant coverage in independent reliable sources about the subject. I reviewed the sources in the article and did not find significant coverage about the subject. There is insufficient coverage in reliable sources about the Centre for Sino-Christian Studies to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline.
Cunard (talk) 10:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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