Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Celia Ammerman (2nd nomination)

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The result was redirect to America's Next Top Model (season 12). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:12, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Celia Ammerman[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 04:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Fashion, and Kentucky. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 04:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Meets WP:GNG based upon significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject, including such sources as Los Angeles Times New York Post, Hartford Courant, Vogue, Lexington Herald-Leader, and several others. These sources cover both her time on the show and her modeling career afterwards, as well as her pre-show early life and other details. — Hunter Kahn 05:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The subject is a living person who appeared on a tv show almost 14 years ago. It's illuminating to look at the dates of each of these sources, and those seen during a reasonable BEFORE. Virtually all the sources applied to the page constitute routine tv news or modeling news from 2009. While it's certainly true the subject was alive before and after her twelve-episode modeling career, it's also true that every one of the sources presented and found (including those seen more recently in a gsearch) refer to this reality show window in 2009, and the various model work surrounding these dates. There is no evidence presented or found that this subject might be considered notable before this season, or afterwards. I don't see any evidence of notable work outside of that season window. This is a BLP, and the page falls far short of the direct detailing, significant coverage, and independent non-routine reliable sources we need to support such a biography. BusterD (talk) 12:24, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be okay with a redirect or merge to America's Next Top Model (season 12). Whatever coverage has accrued is about detailing that subject, not this one. I'd urge editors asserting keep to provide examples of coverage which does not mention the tv show. BusterD (talk) 13:59, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:15, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as suggested is ok. Other than the Lexington newspaper article, they simply talk about her in relation to the show, nothing about her specifically. Oaktree b (talk) 15:30, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.