Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Catriona Nic Fhearghais

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The result was keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:56, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Catriona Nic Fhearghais[edit]

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Non notable person. Does not show in the first source given ~~so possibly hoax.~~ The Banner talk 00:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Under the name Christiana Ferguson, she is discussed on page 374 of The beauties of Gaelic poetry, as stated in the footnote. [1] Also mentioned briefly here [2][3][4]. So, not a hoax. --Arxiloxos (talk) 01:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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- Does not show up in the sources given, although she is there in your version. From you other sources: two of them don't mention her and the other is a passing mention. The Banner talk 02:13, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't understand your comment. She (as Christiana Ferguson) and the ballad are mentioned in all of those sources.--Arxiloxos (talk) 02:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - Unless you start searching at "Christiana Ferguson"... The Banner talk 03:00, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It seems the 1st footnote is linking to a different version of the book "The Beauties of Gaelic Poetry". For the linked version on archive.org, it is page 409. Also note the name "Cairistìona NicFhearghais" is used by some sources. eg [5][6], that seems to be the more common Gaelic name, I would suggest moving the article to that title. --Vclaw (talk) 02:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for that. And from those sources I note the variant spelling of her English name as Christiana Fergusson (with a double-S), and that turns up more sources. (I've added more "find sources" links above.)

From all of these, I think it may be fair to conclude that she is widely credited with having written this well-known ballad. So a straight deletion of this page may be inappropriate. The question still presented in this AfD is: Is this enough for an article? Or, consistent with WP:PRESERVE, is there some other place that this information might be better placed? --Arxiloxos (talk) 02:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the references shows that she clearly meets the general notability guidelines, ie "significant coverage in reliable sources". These sources are diverse, spread over several hundred years, showing lasting significance. --Vclaw (talk) 17:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Based on just one poem? The Banner talk 18:30, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Cædmon is known for a single poem, and is one of the most famous poets in the English language. Not comparing her to Cædmon but just saying, we follow what the sources show per GNG. Are three sources enough? I don't know need to look into it.. -- GreenC 03:55, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable Jacobite poet. Added four more sources for total of 7 across a few hundred years including Celtic Culture: A Historical Encyclopedia (2006). The spelling "Christiana Fergusson" seems more popular probably consider rename. -- GreenC 04:14, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not convinced, but I withdraw the nomination as nominator. The Banner talk 13:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Does that mean the AfD message can now be removed from the top of the article? Graeme 18:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graeme Arnott (talk • contribs)

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