Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Catherine Tran

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The result was Delete, notability via significant coverage in reliable secondary sources is not established. Davewild (talk) 18:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Catherine Tran

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Contested PROD – PROD notice was removed without explanation by anonymous user. Previous “refimprove” and “notability” tags were removed quickly without explanation, too – possible COI / self-promotion? Not notable; notability barely even asserted in article. The sources only mention Ms. Tran in passing, and none of them confirm any of her personal or academic information, and the companies that she works for/has worked for don’t seem to meet WP:CORP. Dawn bard (talk) 17:10, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. WP:NOTINHERITED. The anon that did most of the work on this article also made generous contributions to Tran Bich San (Catherine's father) and Rosie Tran, her sister, both of whom do pass the test of notability. But Catherine clearly does not. --Blanchardb-^{MeMyEarsMyMouth}-timed 17:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Question? There is no explanation why this person is considerable not notable?

• There is an explanation above, but the onus is actually on the author and editors of the article to establish notability, which hasn't been done here. There are no independent secondary sources - the references are just a series of articles based on press releases, and even still, Ms. Tran is only mentioned in passing. Please have a look at WP:BIO and WP:CORP if you have any more questions about what counts as "notable" on Wikipedia, or feel free to ask me any questions on my talk page. Thanks. --Dawn bard (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. This person is a very notable and important person in the Los Angeles fashion scene. Just because user Blanchardb is not familiar with the L.A. fashion scene, doesn't mean that Ms. Tran is not notable. -timed 15:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC) --76.213.247.147 (talk)
• KeepAdditional comment. The articles verify notability and significance for the companies Ms. Tran has worked for and their importance in the fashion industry. They don't mention her just "in passing". In fact, serveral of the articles reference her as a company CEO and clothing designer. --76.213.247.147 (talk)
  • Then how come the article asserts none of this? --Blanchardb-^{MeMyEarsMyMouth}-timed 03:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
• KeepAdditional comment. Further research is currently being done to expand the article. --76.213.247.147 (talk)
• KeepAdditional comment. The "refimprove" and "notability" tags were removed after the article had several references added. --76.213.247.147 (talk)
• Delete as non notable and failing WP:BIO. We need coverage in reliable sources, the article has press releases which mainly list Tran as a contact. Nuttah (talk) 13:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.