Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament Choir and Orchestra

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The result was merge to Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, Christchurch, as this appears to be the least objectionable resolution. BD2412 T 01:00, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament Choir and Orchestra[edit]

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The church is most definitely notable but the choir and orchestra are not. They do not even get a mention on the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, Christchurch article. Nothing worth merging. Ajf773 (talk) 08:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Ajf773 (talk) 08:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Ajf773 (talk) 08:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to article on the Cathedral if anything is worth keeping.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:51, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into the Cathedral article. Strange that the other article is near stub length.--Prisencolin (talk) 04:18, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Just in reply to Ajf773, you mentioned that the CBS is not mentioned in the Catholic Cathedral's Wikipedia page. Granted, this is true. However, though it isn't much, the CBS is stated in the Wikipedia page of St Mary's Pro-Cathedral. The Basillica's Wikipedia page, I think should solely be about the building and its history, as to why the CBS has its own Wikipedia page ... just a thought. Also mentioned, the CBS aren't notable. I would disagree with this as they were given the status of cultural ambassadors by the New Zealand government and have been on numerous World tours, including performing for the Mass at St Peter's Basilica in the Vatican (..."80 members of the touring group were invited to lead the singing in St Peter’s for the Papal Christmas Midnight Mass to inaugurate the Holy Year of Jubilee." [1]) and at Notre Dame in Paris. If they weren't notable, I don't think they would have ever been given this permission or opportunity to do so. On a domestic/local level, the choir and orchestra are well known within the various church and music organisations in NZ, as well as some orchestral players even employed at the Christchurch Symphony Orchestra. I hope this has changed your mind somewhat, but I see two other wikipedians have suggested it be merged with a building that will in future be demolished - something the CBS will no longer be apart of. I hope you are well. Lord A.Nelson (talk) 04:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep seems to be notable due to the fact that they have gone numerous international tours. Patapsco913 (talk) 08:29, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The list of tours is not notable though and we are not a directory. Ajf773 (talk) 20:44, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or merge to the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, as there is rs coverage such as Catholic publications in the article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 18:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Cathedral article. Cathedral choirs are often remunerated making them "professional". If it were not the Cathedral having been damaged in the earthquake having a separate article on the choir would be out of the question. As it is, it seems to have acquired a life of its own, but, when a new Cathedral is eventually completed, it will no doubt again become the Cathedral choir. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:00, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.