Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Casey Gardiner (2nd nomination)

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The result was Delete. Signing up for a tournament is not notable. Kevin (talk) 02:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Casey Gardiner[edit]

Not close to being notable. Punkmorten (talk) 19:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:ATHLETE. He has professional tennis at the highest level. Reso lute 20:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Changing to Delete per below. No sources found to back up claims in article. Reso lute 17:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Has been deleted and recreated multiple times now. Personal section and username obviously seem to be the subject. Technically being professional does not make him notable. Reywas92 ^Talk 21:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Er....yes it does. Subject has competed at a professional level in a professional tournament, so he satisfies WP:ATHLETE. WilliamH (talk) 21:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]

Per what's unfolded, subject is unverifiable. My comment here is to Delete. WilliamH (talk) 17:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question Do we have different rules for those competing in junior status? --which seems to be the case here. I thought we were less inclusive for them. DGG (talk) 22:26, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We are, but I was under the impression that ATP Challenger Series is a professional tournament. If someone more clued up on ATP tennis is able to shed more light, by all means do so. WilliamH (talk) 23:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no trace of the guy according to the ATP. The calendar of events produced by ATP [1] and [2] doesn't have an LA event listed until NEXT month. Jasynnash2 (talk) 10:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Statement Contact International Tennis Federation at +44 (0)20 8878 6464 if you have any questions. Casey Gardiner's ipin on our records is GAR1227171. Use that reference when calling the ITF. Our records show he is signed up for 3 tournaments in the month of September. USA F22 FUTURES - CLAREMONT, CA on 08 September 2008 - 14 September 2008, USA F23 FUTURES - COSTA MESA, CA on 15 September 2008 - 21 September 2008, and USA F25 FUTURES - LAGUNA NIGUEL, CA on 29 September 2008 - 05 October 2008. All three have an entry status of "Entered".ATPTennis (talk) 17:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If he hasn't actually competed in a professional tournament yet, then he fails the notability criteria for athletes. WilliamH (talk) 18:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Im in not place to talk about this subject but this guy seems to have played in a main draw once in Yuma City. As a junior he did play in the qualifying rounds of professional tournaments. He is listed on tennisrecruiting.com as a top rated high school player in 2006. I called the number because I'm sort of curious. Name checks out in their database listed as a player on the Pro Tour. I'm in the military and I checked his name on our end. He is an active duty member in the Marine Corps. It shows he had orders cut to participate in a "competitive tennis tournament". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.162.140.55 (talk) 21:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"IP" would you mind confirming who in the United States government disclosed to you information about an individual soldiers deployment orders. The process you went about in order to garner this information. And lastly, why his deploying to participate in a "competitive tennis tournament" makes him notable. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a Personel Administrative Clerk in the Marine Corps. It's really quite easy to look up members. He had orders cut from May 27th to June 9th for a tennis tournament. We have free international calling here in this office and so I called the ITF and they confermed his playing activity and record. I stumbled upon this article by browsing through our IP edit logs.138.162.140.55 (talk) 19:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you are a Personnel Administrative Clerk I would have expected you to be able to spell "personnel", and also to know that you are putting yourself at risk of severe disciplinary action by revealing this confidential personal and operationally sensitive information. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:13, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's pretty much impossible to find out who he is. It looks like the entire Navy/Marines Corps uses a total of 3 different IP's for all their work stations. I'm pretty sure they would be more keen on disciplinary actions of the service members editing posts about the Navy/Marine Corps and replacing it with offensive material. Non the less, his word isn't notable since its not public knowledge. I'm kind of tempted to call the number but since its Sunday I'm pretty sure their offices are not open. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.163.26.9 (talk) 21:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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