Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cartography and Geographic Information Science

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Kj cheetham (talk) 15:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cartography and Geographic Information Science[edit]

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This seems to be a journal that does not have a high impact factor nor has significant or reliable coverage by sources (poor refs, see WP:GNG). The organization that it publishes on behalf of (Cartography and Geographic Information Society) has a poorly written stub for an article (authority control cites nothing). P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 16:06, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 16:06, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 16:06, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 16:06, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If a journal meets any of the following criteria, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources, it qualifies for a stand-alone article (...) Criterion 1: The journal is considered by reliable sources to be influential in its subject area. (...) 1.b) The most typical way of satisfying C1 is to show that the journal is included in selective citation indices, indexing services, and bibliographic databases. Examples of such services are Science Citation Index, Social Sciences Citation Index, and Scopus. Being included in comprehensive (i.e. non-selective) indices and services like Google Scholar and the Directory of Open Access Journals are not sufficient to establish notability. 1.c) For the purpose of C1, having an impact factor assigned by Journal Citation Reports usually qualifies.

Besides the Web of Science Journal Citation Reports (after Social Sciences Citation Index), the journal is also indexed in Scopus. [1][2] With that you have inclusion in the two most selective citation indices. The comments about the smallness of the IF must be considered in light of the typical IF in the same journal category; I've just checked it, and it equals 1.8925 for the 83 Geography journals in the 2019 JCR, with 14 journals having IF smaller than 1 (IF are known to scale with the number of journals citing one another). Finally, the comments about the sponsoring organization having a stub article, normally we judge notability by sources external to Wikipedia. fgnievinski (talk) 17:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A very compelling argument indeed, but what you are citing is unfortunately not Wikipedia policy. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 20:00, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's the best we've got at Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals. fgnievinski (talk) 05:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The current refs do not show notability, as ref 1 is for the The Cartography Journal, from the British Cartography Society, not Cartography and Geographic Information Science journal, which is also produced T and D. Ref 2 is useless, the archive copy has no information and the original is a page no longer available.fgnievinski says it is in Scopus [3], but this link is to the The Cartography Journal, not the journal discussed in the article. It does rate 2.31 on academic accelerator and is one of the three official journals of the International Cartography Association. I think with correct work to article it's a keep. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 18:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've corrected the links, apologies for the misplacement; my arguments remain the same. fgnievinski (talk) 19:16, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Davidstewartharvey: @Fgnievinski: It seems the I.F. varies according to ResearchGate it is 1.60. [4]
That's only the RG Impact Factor ("This value is calculated using ResearchGate data"), which should not be confused for the official JCR IF; for background, see Impact Factor#Counterfeit. fgnievinski (talk) 05:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, long-established journal which passes WP:NJOURNAL. Covered by both SCOPUS and JCR. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:20, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:43, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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