Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CandyRat Records

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The result was keep. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:34, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CandyRat Records[edit]

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Only refs here are to Allrecords, YouTube, and the company's own website. A Google search turns up Facebook, Twitter, MySpace (MySpace!), Spotify, Vimeo, and various concert announcements and ticket events, but I didn't find non-trivial discussion of the actual record label in any independent reliable secondary published sources. Does not meet WP:ORG, and is being used as implied evidence of notability in the articles of some of its clients. KDS4444 (talk) 00:00, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 00:17, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 00:17, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep CandyRat looks like it may meet WP:MUSIC bullet 5's definition of "one of the more important indie labels" - it has of late become the label home of a number of noteworthy fingerstyle guitar talents (Andy McKee, Matthew Santos, Don Ross (guitarist), Antoine Dufour, and others). There's at least a little independent coverage ([1]). Chubbles (talk) 21:55, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per Chubbles. Comment:, Andy McKee isn't with CandyRandy anymore. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 07:57, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails GNG. Chubbles is misquoting WP:MUSIC which does not apply to companies/organizations but to bands and the full text (which is to determine if a band is notable) is Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels. Notability is not inherited - signing notable musicians does not make the label noteworthy. The little independent coverage at wpr.org is a mere mention-in-passing and provides no information or data about the company, fails WP:CORPDEPTH. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 13:13, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There is a longstanding fissure between those who believe record labels should be treated like businesses (and thus WP:CORP only) or producers of musical culture (and thus WP:MUSIC as a starting point) for purposes of notability. To my mind, it makes as little sense to judge a record label's prominence by organizational guidelines as it would to judge a band's prominence that way. Bands are organizations (businesses, no less!), but we do not judge their notability by WP:CORP. Chubbles (talk) 17:59, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I understand the "fissure" but I'm on the side that treats companies under WP:CORP and bands under WP:MUSIC. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 10:24, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This LiveMint article's subject is the company/music label: Flying fingers: CANdYRAT Records. StrayBolt (talk) 19:16, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I agree, this reference meets the criteria for establishing notability. One more like this and I will change my !vote. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 10:24, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:COMMONSENSE if nothing else. Article no mere unhelpful stub, but has information useful to music researchers/historians. Number of notable artists signed to band indicates that these types would seek information about the record label. Length of history and number of youtube subscribers also indicate a topic of interest that is significantly more far-reaching than the founder and his mother. I have long agreed with Chubbles that CORP is not a good fit for record labels. If signing notable musicians does not make a record label notable, then what possibly could? This is different from inheriting notability, because it demonstrates that the record label has made impact upon musical culture. The article contains verifiable information on a topic of some interest, so Wikipedia is a better encyclopedia with this article included. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 20:59, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.