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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and redirect to My Babysitter's a Vampire. discarding non policy based votes shows we have an actor whose time has yet to come. Spartaz Humbug! 16:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cameron Kennedy[edit]

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Non-notable actor, basically best known for My Babysitter's a Vampire, to which multiple Google News searches provide nothing aside from one search "Cameron Kennedy My Babysitter's a Vampire" (another search provided a Toronto Sun version of the first article). His IMDb page basically sums and this article hardly has good information and references. SwisterTwister talk 05:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. His article claims he has a "main role" in My Babysitter's a Vampire TV series and movie, but the TV series article indicates his character is more of a second banana to the three main ones. Even if he were, that wouldn't satisfy WP:NACTOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:49, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. He had credited main roles (opinions about what constitutes a main role don't override how he is actually credited) in a movie and two seasons of a television series. That is sufficient to meet WP:NACTOR's "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." requirements. The article has been on wiki since 2011 and has accurate info about this actor useful and informative to readers. It is not necessary to remove this one now just because it is marginal. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:31, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where are the significant roles in multiple notable films? Even his article admits to only one non-minor film role in My Babysitter's a Vampire, a TV movie that is neither notable nor multiple. Clarityfiend (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Multiple is for total works so at least 2 notable roles, his film, and the TV series (taking multiple to mean more than one). 3 if you count each season of the TV series. Notable film and TV series as demonstrated by articles existing in wiki. This is an edge case here but I think squeaks over the line to keep it particularly since the article has been here for 4ish years. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:28, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's not a notable film, period. And citing WP:USEFUL and trying to stretch a series out by seasons are signs of desperation. Being overlooked for "4ish years" doesn't boost his case either; hoaxes have routinely remained undetected longer than that (not that I'm calling him a hoax, just unnotable). Clarityfiend (talk) 21:19, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: When the TV Film aired it received 4.8 mil viewers. I would consider that significant. It and the show then went on to air on two major TV networks and go onto Netflix. He also has a significant social media following and vlogging success. I vote to keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:1B80:1317:2471:32B7:829:D9A0 (talk) 01:24, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
— 2601:7:1B80:1317:2471:32B7:829:D9A0 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Notability is not inherited. The number of viewers a show had has no bearing on whether the actors in the show qualify for Wikipedia articles or not. It's reliable source coverage, in which the actor is the subject of the coverage, that gets a person into Wikipedia, not how many people did or didn't watch the show. Bearcat (talk) 15:15, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 10:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 10:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • If he has such a "significant" following, where are the fawning articles in publications? (sound of [vampire] crickets). Clarityfiend (talk) 00:21, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:56, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect as not notable, per above. The guidelines are vague about what constitutes a "significant role" but his role in My Babysitter's a Vampire is marginal depending on your definition, and claiming he's in multiple works is also questionable. He doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG or other standards. Colapeninsula (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and/or redirect to My Babysitter's a Vampire. The necessary volume of reliable source coverage about him is lacking, and the number of viewers that a show got is not a notability freebie that exempts any of the actors in the show from having to be the subject of media coverage. Bearcat (talk) 15:15, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As of May 2015 he has approximately 21.9k Twitter followers. [1] He has almost 5,000 Youtube subscribers. [2] He also has an online fan club, albeit small. [3] There are media articles about him. [4] While he may not have the largest of followings, there is still one there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:1B80:1317:2471:32B7:829:D9A0 (talk) 03:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
— 2601:7:1B80:1317:2471:32B7:829:D9A0 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
No number of social networking followers has anything to do with Wikipedia's inclusion standards. An article lives or dies on the volume of reliable source coverage that's available to support one, and not on raw numbers of subscribers on any social media platform. Not Twitter, not Facebook, not Tumblr, not YouTube — it's reliable source coverage in real media or nothing, and the FreshTV article you provided isn't a reliable source either. And while you're allowed to comment more than once in an AFD discussion, you're not allowed to "vote" more than once — so the "keep" at the beginning of this followup comment has been struck out. Bearcat (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 20:07, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - fails GNG —МандичкаYO 😜 20:16, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - on the basis of not only the significance of the MBAV film/TV series, but he is still an actor, who has more than just MBAV listed for credits, it's just his longest running work. He recently filmed a short last year that's not even listed on here. This page needs more extensive research instead of being deleted. PaulaSVU (talk) 09:41, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
What it needs is reliable source coverage in which he's the subject — an actor can have over a thousand roles in film and TV over the course of his career without qualifying for a Wikipedia article if RS coverage of his work as an actor is lacking. Bearcat (talk) 18:26, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
  1. ^ https://twitter.com/CamcamKennedy
  2. ^ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdXIvPlSn7Gpu3v6snjHMxw
  3. ^ http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/cameron-kennedy
  4. ^ http://www.freshtvinc.com/blog/happy-birthday-cameron-kennedy/
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