Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cameron Finley

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The result was keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:15, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cameron Finley[edit]

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Prod declined. Coverage said to exist on talk page. However, the coverage is only WP:BLP1E in reference to him beating out 5000 other boys for the Beaver role, or tangential name-dropping of him within the scope of the film; even then, I see only four or five articles total. I see literally nothing on him outside that one role. Furthermore, his only other recurring role is a voice actor in a cartoon that lasted only 13 episodes, having me believe he fails WP:ENT. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 01:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Here's a sampling of the Beaver-related coverage about the individual - [1][2][3][4] (most are behind a paywall, but it's clear the pieces go beyond "tangential name-dropping." I'll weigh in more later; when I noticed the prod I felt that having an AfD discussion would be more appropriate given the starring movie role; a significant role in the third installment of the North and South (TV miniseries) (1994), the voice role/regular cast member on The Lionhearts, an animated series that lasted one season; and being a 4-time Young Artist Award nominee, all of which combined might be viewed as enough to satisfy WP:ENT #1. Gongshow ^Talk 02:19, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The coverage is still exclusively about his role in Leave It to Beaver. I found nothing even name-dropping him for any other role, nor any reliable secondary sources verifying the Young Artist Award nomination. If all the coverage is for just one role, then he's WP:BLP1E. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 02:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just for accuracy's sake, there are name drops for his roles in Hope Floats, 8 Seconds, Perfect Game, and One True Love (the latter two were starring/main roles in a Disney direct-to-video movie and a CBS TV movie, respectively). Gongshow ^Talk 04:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which are still only name-drops, thus failing the non-trivial thing. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 04:42, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's probably true, I haven't looked through them all. Like I said, I was responding specifically to the "I found nothing even name-dropping him for any other role" comment, and pointing out that many such instances do exist. Small point, I realize; I'm merely trying to help make sure everything is accurately put out there. Gongshow ^Talk 05:25, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom. I looked at all the sources and external links and really tried to lean toward "keep", but he just doesn't make it. Tom Reedy (talk) 03:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I hope you revisist the article after it has been expanded and sourced. Its nominated "state" does not reflect his complete career nor the accolades he had received. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 20:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 02:26, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per meeting WP:ENT and WP:ANYBIO. We do not care that his awards were those specifically set to recognize child actors, nor that his career ended in 2000 when his (wise) parents decided to let him grow up as a "normal" kid. See WP:NTEMP. He had significant roles in enough notable projects so as to meet WP:ENT, and received decent enough recognition for his work to meet WP:ANYBIO. It does not matter that he is no longer acting, nor that (so-far-found) sources concentrate on his starring role as Theodore 'Beaver' Cleaver in the 1997 film Leave It to Beaver. For a then-youngster, we have enough sources speaking about him directly and in enough detail to write a neutral article, his body of work is verifiable, is diverse enough to not be a BLP1E, and can be seen to meet the guidelines for inclusion for what work when he did do it when he did it. Guideline does not expect nor demand that someone who was active in film and television when a child must somehow remain so when an adult in order to be determined as notable. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 20:10, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:07, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per MQS rationale. The coverage of his Beaver role might be enough by itself, but we also have evidence of recognition for other work as well; cumulative result is notability.--Arxiloxos (talk) 17:57, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. After further consideration, I'm inclined to agree with MQS as well. The subject's overall filmography meets WP:ENT. I also took a deeper look at offline sources and added a handful of them to the article. Gongshow ^Talk 18:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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